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[–] QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz 225 points 1 month ago (12 children)

If anything good has come of this Israel-Palestine conflict thing, it has been exposing idiots.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

Specifically pretend-progressive idiots, for whom progess is great when it's for their approved groups.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Idk, I never would have learned about all the "nuances" within the far right about this issue if not for what happened to Charlie Kirk. It's not just a pretend-progressive idiot thing. Idiots across the political spectrum have done some very interesting mental gymnastics over this conflict.

Charlie Kirk made some clearly antisemitic statements during his career, but he also fully supported Israel in this conflict. That is fucking dumb, but also sounds pretty on point considering Trump supports Israel in this conflict, yet refused to admonish his neo nazi supporters who were caught on camera during rallies doing sieg heils before his first term. Or his supports that marched with torches chanting "Jews will not replace us." Not to mention some dude on Ketamine who hopped on stage during his second inauguration to do a few more sieg heils just to really rub it in.

Apparently the shooter was a fan of Nick Fuentes. Fuentes hated Charlie Kirk bc he believed he was "too moderate" in his far right views. Ok...

Nick Fuentes is apparently a Holocaust denier and has called for the death of jews in a holy war. He is very upfront and honest about his antisemitism. I guess this makes Fuentes the kind of guy Jerry Seinfeld apparently prefers as opposed to anyone who might otherwise just simply disagree with him about Palestine.

Nick Fuentes also called Charlie Kirk a hypocrite for claiming to be a Christian while supporting genocide and murder of hundreds of people on a daily basis.

I can't argue with him on that particular statement. However, it also seems just a bit hypocritical to be an antisemite calling for the death of jews, while claiming to worship a jew who sacrificed himself for the sins of the world, and only asked in return that you love your God as the creator of all things and love your neighbor as yourself.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

That's a nice summary of some of the mental gymnastics going on!

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