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[–] StuffYouFear@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Was a Honda mechanic for a very long time. The base level knowledge of how stuff just works always surprises me. 90s level and earlier cars you could fix alot on your own. 2003 and beyond though, cars are too damn complicated. For mechanics working on them, the labor rate never went up to match the complications with the new crap they put out.

[–] applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

That's intentional. They don't really want anyone to fix their cars because they see it as bad for their bottom line. The best outcome for the car manufacturers is to make a car that is completely irreparable, forcing even a minor failure to require full replacement. The problem, as always, is capitalism.

[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago

Saab went under because they weren't making enough money from repairs, right? There may be a similar problem with electric engines but I'm sure the car manufacturers will find a way to make them shitty so they can make money.

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 6 points 15 hours ago

Its not exactly intentional... but its just convient coincidence. In order to get every ounce of fuel efficiency from an ICE to meet the current envorimental regs, the engine is loaded with hundreds of sensors and computers. But, what is intentional is the manufacturers do not release their diagnostic tools, so only "authorized" mechanics can only trouble shoot problems.

[–] applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 23 hours ago

That's intentional. They don't really want anyone to fix their cars because they see it as bad for their bottom line. The best outcome for the car manufacturers is to make a car that is completely irreparable, forcing even a minor failure to require full replacement. The problem, as always, is capitalism.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

yeah i miss my 89 nissan. that was a dream to learn mechanics on. i could fit my whole arm in that engine compartment without taking anything out. now we drive a hybrid and i can change the wiper fluid and tires and that little spark box frightens me a little.