You are literally trying to engage in propaganda in favour of the most prolific invader in the world - NATO.
Let's be honest, you do not condemn NATO, you do not bring up NATO everywhere you can the way you do with Russia, and you do want to be a beneficiary of its colonial atrocities.

if i say "russia is bad" i´m not implying "NATO is good"

99.97% of the time, that's exactly what you (plural) do. If you are an exception, then I welcome you to prove me wrong.

is everything black and white in your world?

My world is a lot less monochrome than the world of people who go 'Russia bad! Everything that contradicts NATO's propaganda is Russian disinfo! Russia should roll over and die for my empire!'

[–] SunSunFuego@lemmy.ml 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

nato propaganda is "we need to send tons of arms so ukrainians can defend their country" but even if they defend it it´s gonna end like this: ukraine - a country with a gdp of 42 billion $ in 2014 took up soo much debt it could never repay it after the war. it´s gonna privatize all assets, multinational corporations come in and swoop everything the state can offer. ukraine will be denied entry into the eu. ukraine will be a financial slave to the imf, america and the eu and it´s gonna get exploited for cheap labour while ukrainians will be treated as 2nd class world citizens due to their non-eu passport.

i got heated up. i apologize if i made assumptions about you. my point still stands: russia is spreading misinfo like crazy and OP keeps reposting it.

[–] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

nato propaganda is "we need to send tons of arms so ukrainians can defend their country"

Also, 'we need to do a coup in Ukraine'.
Also, 'we need to invade Iraq because reasons'.
Also, 'we need to invade Afghanistan because reasons'.
Also, 'we need to invade Iran because reasons'.
Also, 'we need to do a Lebensraum in Palestine because reasons'.
And so on, and so forth.
The 'Russia bad' sort of propaganda pales in comparison to that, actually, but it is still used to justify NATO's hegemony over the world.

ukraine - a country with a gdp of 42 billion $ in 2014 took up soo much debt it could never repay it after the war.

And NATO (along with pro-NATO anti-communists in Ukraine and Russia)

it´s gonna privatize all assets

The unpopular privatisation of assets was already underway by 2022, even if we exclude the 1990s that severely damaged the living standards in Ukraine.

my point still stands: russia is spreading misinfo like crazy and OP keeps reposting it.

NATO has been spreading misinformation much more aggressively, to the point of most people in English-speaking places being convinced that NATO and the Ukrainian nazi state are somehow on the right side of history here.