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Gorbachev surely loved capitalism (lemmy.ml)
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[–] Blemgo@lemmy.world -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes, after the reign of Stalin, where Khrushchev took over, the USSR deescalated the Cold War, yet it was the actions taken by Stalin's regime that let the conflict start to begin with, with the USSR not retreating from Iran as the other Allied Forces did, the threat of force in the Turkish Straits crisis, comparing Churchill to Adolf Hitler and breaking the Yalta Agreement by meddling with the 1947 Polish elections.

Also, the article seems to be paywalled, so I have to see when I get around to reading it.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Here's a non-paywalled version. Either way, no, you're entitely off. The USSR began its life has heavily invaded and sanctioned by countries like the US. The USSR would have rather had time for peaceful development, but the US Empire could not allow an alternative. Additionally, Churchill was similar to Hitler, the two admired each other and Churchill was responsible for mass famine in India. He had this to say about it:

I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion. The famine was their own fault for breeding like rabbits.

If anything, it was the west that wanted the Cold War from the beginning.

Harry Truman, in 1941 in front of the Senate, stated:

If we see that Germany is winning we ought to help Russia, and if Russia is winning we ought to help Germany, and that way let them kill as many as possible, although I don’t want to see Hitler victorious under any circumstances.

[–] Mr_WorldlyWiseman@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The USSR began its life has heavily invaded and sanctioned by countries like the US.

The Red Army invaded many countries, like Poland, Finland, Ukraine, Baltica, etc.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 days ago

That's a non-sequitor and even false in some instances. We were discussing how their claim was that the USSR provoked the Cold War, but that wasn't the case at all, as I pointed out. You're trying to make this a point about "invasion bad," which isn't always true and moreover isn't at all relevant to the topic at hand.