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[–] pillowtags@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’m sorry, the working class is in control of the state? I’d love to hear something to back up such a strong statement.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The communists overthrew the nationalists, and since then public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy. Democracy was expanded and is comprehensively surveyed from the bottom-up, and capitalists are kept in check by the socialist state.

What exactly do you want to read about? That's a broad question, if you narrow it down a bit I might be able to give you a more focused answer.

[–] pillowtags@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What does “public ownership” mean? They’re not paying dividends to every Chinese citizen, right? I assume you mean “the state”, in which case I’m not seeing your point.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Public ownership doesn't mean receipt of dividends, like some kind of massive cooperative. It means owned across all of society. The state handles that in socialism, yes, China is socialist.

[–] pillowtags@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

OK but you said public ownership as a part of how “the working class” is in control of the state, and this sounds like not that.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The state is an extension of the ruling class, it isn't an independent entity. Ownership of the state is largely determined by which aspect is principle, private ownership, public ownership, etc. In China, public, collective ownership is principle, and the communists created a socialist state after overthrowing the nationalists.

I'm not seeing your point.