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[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

That means nothing when the servers stop taking EU traffic

I don’t use any of these apps, so I’m not quite sure how they work. But couldn’t you just make an app that keeps a local private and public key pair. Then when you send a message (say via regular sms) it includes under the hood your public key. Then the receiver when they reply uses your public key to encrypt the message before sending to you?

Unless the sms infrastructure is going to attempt to detect and reject encrypted content, this seems like it can be achieved without relying on a server backend.

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

That is how the signal protocol works, it's end to end encrypted with the keys only known between the two ends.

The issue is that servers are needed to relay the connections (they only hold public keys) because your phone doesn't have a static public IP that can reliably be communicated to. The servers are needed to communicate with people as they switch networks constantly throughout the day. And they can block traffic to the relay servers.

[–] white_nrdy@programming.dev 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think they're suggesting doing it on top of SMS/MMS instead of a different transport protocol, like Signal does, which is IP based

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 8 points 3 weeks ago

Which is what Textsecure was. The precursor to Signal. Signal did it too, but removed it because it confused stupid people.

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