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update to this classic with some recent headlines

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[–] Armand1@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I may not like many of what I know of China's policies (genocide, suppression of free speech etc.), but this is one of the things they have done well.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

No, China is not commiting genocide. The best and most comprehensive resource I have seen so far is Qiao Collective's Xinjiang: A Resource and Report Compilation. Qiao Collective is explicitly pro-PRC, but this is an extremely comprehensive write-up of the entire background of the events, the timeline of reports, and real and fake claims.

I also recommend reading the UN report and China's response to it. These are the most relevant accusations and responses without delving into straight up fantasy like Adrian Zenz, professional propagandist for the Victims of Communism Foundation, does.

Tourists do go to Xinjiang all the time as well. You can watch videos like this one on YouTube, though it obviously isn't going to be a comprehensive view of a complex situation like this. Even with all of the real complexities, though, nothing material measures up to claims of genocide.

As for "freedom of speech," it's largely capitalist speech that is suppressed. As class struggle is very much alive in China, they can't let the bourgeoisie take control of the media and manufacture consent for its own ends.

[–] SunSunFuego@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago
[–] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 6 days ago

genocide

Wasn't there a pic of Xinjiang and Gaza being shared to show that this was western exaggeration and blame shifting?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 days ago

The only genocide that's being committed today is the one that's happening in Gaza with the direct involvement of western regimes. Full stop.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

what until you see how much more genocide & suppression the united states has inflicted upon the world. lol

[–] Taalnazi@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

¿por que no lo dos?

Both are terrible. But in the light of the absolute state of the world, China's a much lesser evil.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 23 hours ago

and the gulf between them is going to get larger as time goes on.

[–] dwemthy@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's a laughing matter to you?

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

you have to laugh at the absurdity of the pot calling the kettle black when it comes to genocide & suppression; especially so when the american pot is SO MUCH blacker than the chinese kettle.

and laughing becomes a coping strategy when an overwhelming majority of americans and other westerners have swallowed so much propaganda that they willfully & sometimes violently remain ignorant of it.