Unlike the more massive social media or the real world where theres not many leftists and we are gladly more united Lemmy and its left leaning tendencies with the instances providing natural cult grouping tendencies. Add to that the matrix in groups there and we all seem to be making a thing out of how to anger each other. How to troll each other or annoy x or y instance.

I hate this.

Living in an extreme right wing nation I know no other anarchist. A few left wingers. Even the libs here are right wing extremists by the standards of a western nation. I hold dear any solidarity.

I support unions here even when everyone there is a religious fundamentalist who wants sharia law bc they still qantnto improve the conditions of the working class.

Many folks here, who again I don't have any hate for, I see intending these fights and dramas. Having the goal to be banned from x or y community or instance.

Why!?!?
What do you gain?
What is the desire here??

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I have tried to talk to anarchists here, as I feel there is potentially something to it, but it always ends up with "read this and shut up libtard"-like posts. A shame, we should welcome different opinions and angles seing things, not always try to "convert" everyone to some very specific thing. IMO.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

you have been pretty anti-communist every time we've intracted, on top of calling me a tankie. not surprised you're having trouble with people welcoming your different opinion

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You are a tankie though.

In what substantive manner (real world issues) are you different from a stereotypical tankie?

In this very thread you bring up "approved narrative" in context of russian genocidal imperialism. This is comically stupid (and very ironic) for anyone that knows russian and has lived there.

You even bring up "workers dictatorship" in a seemingly serious manner. There have never been any worker's dictatorships, just some thugs dominating everyone else with some communist styled marketing and PR.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

PS. If you're not a pro authoritarian please accept my apologies.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you want to find out if they're an actual tankie, just look for anything related to Russia or China. They out themselves pretty quick, usually.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Can you elaborate? has tankie been reduced to pejorative shorthand for 'isn't repeating the approved narrative'

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just read these 14 books from 1930 if you want to have an opinion. No, I can't summarize anything from them. They can only be understood in their entirety.

All hail Putin, Xi.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Seems like a caricature rather than someone that's actually around.

I really don't see anyone of consequence on lemmy being like 'no Putin is good actually.'

One example, I was reading a hexbear (allegedly tankie central) thread a while back where they were shitting on the CPRF for receiving praise from Putin for their support of the SMO. (ie saying that they were losers that lenin would have had shot, and that they're not communist)

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh I see, it is I who have to "welcome a different option".

Most of "communism" here on lemmy is either hardcore stalin/lenin/mao authoritarian ruling or it is some sort of workers dictatorship. What's not to criticise? And when you try to discuss you get downvoted and people act aggressively, or so I feel.

I also does not know what that has to do with anarchism?

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Oh I see, it is I who have to “welcome a different option”.

reread my comment, not what I said. Maybe if you're less quick to call people tankies you might not get called a liberal in response.

I consider a workers dictatorship to be a lesser evil compared to the dictatorship of capital we live in currently.

I also does not know what that has to do with anarchism?

To put it simply, anarchists want to abolish hierarchy, communists want to abolish private property. They overlap when you want both. Liberals tend to oppose dismantling both of those things.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Okay, like I'd love everyone getting together well, but I know it won't happen, but I can still try, and maybe make the world a little better.

Your ideas are absolutists, there is no possible gradation, and even taken one by one they are insane idea that has never worked, and you want both? How is that even going to work? No property, no rulers, I mean good luck with that.

It's just not possible to have a serious conversation here, so I wish you luck!

Cheers

Edit: well look at all that civilised discussion right here! Ah no? Only anonymous downvotes without any reason? Who would have thought...

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

you: "It's impossible to have a serious conversation here, so I wish you luck!"

me: okay, I won't bother responding

you: "woe is me, nobody responded, only downvotes"

idk what you expected tbh

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Well I did hope for an answer, but all I got was victim blaming.

If you can't say, respectfully, what you think, how do you think there could be a meaningful excange of ideas?

For what I have understood: you roughly think all actual existing government are bad, police is bad, banks are bad, enforcing rules are bad, having your own things are bad.

If that's so, how is your society suppose to do anything productive or useful?

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago

Lemmy attracts personalities that don’t get along with IRL communities.