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Linux is a lot better than the last few times.
It might just be 'good enough' at this point.
I agree. This time, it's actually different. Big name streamers and YouTubers are showing their support. Not just people in the tech industry, but random channels like EmKay and PewDiePie.
Linux is better than ever. Steam is a breeze. Wine support has never been better.
Meanwhile, Windows has more nasty surprises, underhanded backstabs, and security nightmares than ever before.
Dankpods has gone in on Linux too. He did a video about building a Bazzite PC a couple of weeks back.
First time reading that PewDiePie is a "random channel"...
Can you enumerate these underhanded backstabs? What a colorful claim.
Ads. Steering me to store all my data in Microsoft’s cloud where they do (or inevitably will) scan it for profiling, AI training, government surveillance, etc. (which also annoyingly locks file handles when documents are open). Shoving AI into every product, even when it’s completely useless. Sunsetting useful products. Changing license terms for paid products, forcing subscriptions. Requiring online accounts only and eliminating workarounds. Removing features and replacing them with incomplete UI offering less control. Massive security holes. Annoying patch/upgrade system that interrupts me while I’m working. Flaky, bug ridden tools (Teams, etc) And updates that break hardware.
Hey some of these actually are underhanded backstabs. You get a good star for understanding the assignment! 🌟
-we heard you like search bars so we added a search bar next to the menu containing a search bar.
-open wide because here comes the unwanted update train.
-you want to do thing with file?
No, bad user. Play candycrush instead.
-that’s an impressive machine you have there. Would be too bad if someone were to slow it down with tons of bloat.
-Telemetry? At good ol MS? Never.
-oh but all the W10 menus you love are still there, it just takes a rainforest expedition to get there.
-Just buy a one drive subscription and walk away.
Yeah that search bar, so useless because the start menu itself is a search bar if you simply start typing.
So, to really be sure i get it: adding two search bars is an underhanded backstab?
Now I see why I didn't get it, the definition being used is literally insane.
Please make sure all your drivers are up to date and your screen is set to the correct resolution because it seems to be that you’re missing the bigger picture.
“Underhanded backstab” being the correct expression or not aside=> W11 sucks ass imo, get mad if you want to. (Something tells me this isn’t about proper word choice for you though, but feel free to correct me on that if that is a thing you care about)
I mean your point may have been windows sucks ass but I'm aware of where I am and that's a completely uninteresting claim here. Why not rant about water being wet -- it's just as unique or interesting as your take on windows.
What I specifically asked about is underhanded backstabs, because that's a unique and interesting claim I haven't read 464335735 times before on lemmy.
Well, you’ll have to ask the person making that claim to begin with. I just added my take on the list of annoyances about W11.
I find your interest in the expression itself rather uninteresting. I do hope it goes without saying people say these things without meaning them literally.
All in all the step from W10 to W11 is such a letdown one might compare it to a backstab, underhanded or otherwise.
And with that I’m done defending an expression I didn’t use to begin with. Good day.
That implies I want to argue with somebody who is sealioning.
You added it in the subthread to my question and now you appear to be trying to blame me, in your head, for your error. Now that's interesting.
I uh...don't have any of those experiences personally but that isn't really the point. I asked for underhanded backstabs.
Have you used Windows past the 8.1 days?
Yes, I find Linux terribly unusable on my laptop, way too many driver issues, hard to get into a secure state, and I miss apps like signal (no official build) mpc-hc (the replacements are all trash) and a functional version of thunderbird (lol at the tray icon third party implementation that just doesn't work). Etc, etc. I don't have a ton of unique needs but I do want theto work
^and this is of course with KDE, gnome is all that but with just a trash user interface. How many gestures do I need to use to make my computer treat me like an adult ffs.
It's still of course on my server (an old laptop which ironically can't be used as a laptop because at some point after some random update the login service broke and won't accept input from the keyboard lol) and other headless devices I don't have to actually use, thank god.
Signal has a Linux client though? I literally use it myself
The signal org produces a debian-compatible package and an apt server. I suppose there are hoops to jump through to make that work reliably on other distros but by that point my interest in using Linux was dwindling. (I actually moved for the performance benefits which didn't materialize I think due to linux' piss poor memory handling -- I have a pretty low end laptop with only 16 gb of ram. the above we're all just issues along the way).
It's also in the official arch repositories, so any arch-derived distro has an easy install. I don't know about other distros however
If you care to trust random strangers with your secure messenger that's a choice you can make (admittedly the desktop isn't particularly secure to begin with but even more reason to use the actual org's build imo). I'm sure christian heusel is very reputable.
And you also need to trust your OS not taking screenshots of your apps or recording the text displayed onto your screen
There's plenty of links in this chain, there's a lot you need to be aware of if you're going to those lengths. Pick your battles
My os does not do that
I don't consider "wanting a secure app to be installed through first party means" to be particularly unusual. I know in Linux it's standard to just install random stuff from the internet with root. I've obviously done that myself, but for secure stuff I want first party. Making a flatpak wouldn't be hard (they probably just need to review someone else's work -- it's like an intern project)
So I went and looked it up, and signal-desktop is listed as a reproducible build, so theoretically you should be able to go and check that it conforms to the source
https://reproducible.archlinux.org/
But this isn't anything I've looked into myself, so feel free to look into it
I think a lot of people expect Linux to work like Windows, and that's why they go back to Windows, even if some stuff is easier on Linux.
Many of us probably remember times when we tried to download random applications through a web browser, because that's what Windows expects you to do. People will try that, and be confused, why stuff breaks or not work at all.
I think it's easily good enough for general use. It's only certain types of gamers (anti-cheat support is still pretty terrible), and people who are heavily attached to a specific Windows program that they spend a lot of time using, that will have trouble switching across full time. For everyone else, Linux is superior because it runs so much faster than the now incredibly bloated Windows. Depending on the distro, it's also arguably simpler than Windows too.
Most anticheat actually works fine on Linux like 99%+ of games with anticheat. It's just a handful of titles which I don't even like anyways, except maybe GTA online that don't work. It's also not a limitation of Linux but an intentional choice made by those developers to disable it on Linux. Their stated reason is because it's easier to edit memory and stuff on Linux, so they rather just ban Linux all together instead of banning cheaters or region locking games where cheating is common, like in China. I think the real reason rockstar does it is because they have big investments in Microsoft or something. Either way I have no desire to support windows, there are plenty of games that I play, nearly all of them in fact, that work just fine on Linux. There is like maybe 2 that won't.
This isn't true and dismissing the anti-cheat issues because you don't play these games is quite ignorant when they are some of the most played in the world. Just off the top of my head, all Battlefield games, PUBG, Apex Legends, Valorant, Rainbow Six Siege, Escape from Tarkov, League of Legends, Fortnite, Destiny 2...
What? Nothing I said was untrue not a single thing. You are just making up stuff which is honestly pathetic. How about tell the truth you psycho? Also all those games suck, and pubg worked the last time I played it so I don't even believe your list. You are probably lying about that too.
Most of those games actually used to work just fine until they intentionally made them not work on Linux.
That's why saying the anticheat doesn't work on Linux is misleading and wrong. It works on Linux just fine, they just choose to make it not support Linux with a configuration option.
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I mean I love linux but the biggest hurdle is that certain software/games just aren't compatible. I use my pc for sim racing in vr a lot. With no ability to use iracing or my vr in linux I'm stuck. While I hate Windows and would prefer to use linux, I'm not going to abandon my hobby and all the equipment I have for it just to use an os I prefer. Throughout many different domains of use for a computer their are many different variations of stories like mine. Until the software and games people use can be supported in the linux ecosystem 'good enough' never happens. Like for basic computer use linux is already better than good enough its fantastic, it just works has intuitive user interfaces the bones of the OS are there. The problem is that many companies and software providers just aren't filling the gap that is the needs beyond basic web browsing, media playback and, playing older/indie games without anticheat. Without the substance people expect it doesnt matter how good the bones of the system are they are gonna be trapped in windows and linux will be stuck as the outcast programmers and enthusiasts use while knowing they have to still use windows for the niche use cases they have. And time and time again, eventually running 2 systems gets tiring and linix use/adoption slows back down again.
But you understand that when VR headset makers and game developers read your comment, this is all they will take away from it ^.
"oh sweet, people won't leave windows, so we only have to support one operating system and can save the money we would have to spend to support linux", right?