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[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Not sure why we're surprised. And even then, it took a while for the "good" OSes to get good. Windows 7 is remembered fondly because it ended well, not because it started well.

Windows 95: OK Windows 98: Bad Windows 98 SE: OK Windows ME/2000: Bad Windows XP: OK Windows Vista: Bad Windows 7: OK Windows 8: Bad Windows 10: OK Windows 11: Bad

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

Windows 98 wasn't bad. It was a big improvement in stability over 95. Windows ME/2000 were two completely separate products. Win 2000 was based on NT which always got better until maybe Vista. Vista itself wasn't bad. The problem was end users not liking security. Vista made it easier than sudo to temporarily elevate security and everyone still complained. So they backed off on 7 which was less secure because it didn't enforce security elevation as much.

You also can't list 98SE and ignore Win 8.1. 8.1 was a bandaid fix for the start menu of 8 but was still a bad. Not to mention that there was also Win95 OSR1 and Win95 OSR2.

There's no significant difference between 10 and 11 to claim one is good and the other is bad. All the spyware and advertising garbage in 11 was also in 10.

[–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

*backed off on 7 ?

I think you're also overlooking that the driver model changed for Vista, so tons of hardware listed as supporting Vista was just extremely unstable at release until hardware vendors figured out the new driver model

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

If its drivers, then XP was really bad. It was so bad it didn't even support HD's bigger than 128GB at release despite Win2k supporting the larger drives.

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