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[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The world and society have explicitly gotten far better since and because of the advent of serious representative democracy.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The US and Britain genocided entire continents using representative "democracy" (IE capitalist dictatorship).

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Things got better after unified monarchies ordained by God superceded quarreling petty kingdoms. Things got better with constitutional monarchies with aristocrat parliaments. Things got better with suffrage and classic liberal democracy.

Each system has its limitations and contradictions, and each of them were superceded when those became incompatible with the current reality.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yup. Capitalist liberal democracy is the best system we've ever had at scale. It's shite for numerous reasons, but it's better than what came before. We can acknowledge the benefits while simultaneously acknowledging that we can do better.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 4 months ago

Capitalism was in many ways progressive as compared to feudalism, but came with new devastation and greater imperialism on a massive scale. Socialism has been far better for the people than capitalism has been, though, and as imperialism crumbles and socialist countries are rising this is becoming clearer and clearer.