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[–] toastus@feddit.de 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I think you understand neither what a skepticist is, nor how religion or free churches work.

Well you're wrong in both, but I am curious why you would think that.

And by your logic I assume you have to be an anarchist,

Hilariously wrong here.

since every government that ever existed - or society for that matter - has exercised some form of suppression.

Care to explain what that has to do with anything I said in this thread?

I think your overgeneralizing, intollerant way of thinking is sickening and hardly better than that of a racist or sexist.

And I think you resort to personal insults because you have no valid arguments against my positions.
But please humor me and tell me how I am intolerant in an comparable way to a racist or sexist.

And please don't tell me what my beliefs are. That's pretty church-y of you.

I'm a pansexual protestant Christian

Are you kidding me? You told about your beliefs yourself.

And it's especially rich after your whole post made assumptions about me.

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world -4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Well you're wrong in both, but I am curious why you would think that.

You claim I believe in an almighty being, yet this is a key point where a skepticist might disagree with your average Christian. Moreover you claim I am supporting oppression, yet you don't even have the slightest idea what church I'm in and what they do or ever did. So you seem to have either huge misconceptions or you are prejudiced to a point where you are dismissive of anything that doesn't fit your narrative.

I'm a pansexual protestant Christian

Are you kidding me? You told about your beliefs yourself.

This just shows how you don't view Christians as individuals at all. Claiming to know exactly what I believe in based on that sole statement is exactly as silly as me claiming: 'I know what you believe, because your are an atheist.' Acting like you know a strangers beliefs for certain is arrogant to say the least.

Care to explain what that has to do with anything I said in this thread?

Well, you judge churches based on the fact that some where oppressive in the past (and yes, I know some are still today). Based on that you either have to hate pretty much all governments, since it obviously doesn't matter whether anything have changed, or you have double standards.

And I think you resort to personal insults because you have no valid arguments against my positions.

If you feel attacked by me calling out your intolerant and overgeneralizing way of thinking, that's just because you are unable to defend yourself against a fact. Your words leave no other conclusion than that your are extremely prejudiced against Christians. You might have expressed yourself badly once, but you doubled down on your hate and ignorance. You might have good reasons for it, but would you excuse someone being racist for having had bad encounters with an ethnic group? Just as you probably wouldn't, neither do I excuse your statements about Christians.

[–] toastus@feddit.de 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I didn't want to reply at all because it is starting to get ridiculous and noone else keeps reading this.

But please just for the sake of being honest, show me where I am intolerant or hateful?
I replied to other comments in this thread as well, there should be plenty to pick from.

Show me my intolerance, show me my hate.

I even make it easier for you.

I think religion is a cancer to society.
I think all religions are basically cults.

Make a straightforward argument how my statements are either hateful or intolerant.

Because while those statements are my honest opinion, I am still strongly in favour of freedom of religion.
I would never forbid anyone from practicing their religion as long as they don't infringe on someone else's rights in doing so.
I don't hate anyone for being religious. There are wonderful religious people.

Still I think they are wonderful despite their religion, not because of it.

I don't even hate you, despite your ongoing insults towards me.
I just think you are very wrong on a fundamental level and haven't yet learned to deal with being told so.