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[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (52 children)

Especially on an ml instance. I'm waiting for some bozo to post Engels' "on authority" again.

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

ML's explicitly are anti-state and believe it to be in charge of managing irreconcilable class differences so it must be destroyed and replaced with something else. This is written explicitly in Lenin's State and Revolution.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Almost, MLs understand that the state is necessary until class is abolished, so what replaces the bourgeois state is a proletarian state that withers with respect to collectivization of production and distribution. Revolution for MLs doesn't get rid of the state overnight, but creates a new state that cannot but wither.

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[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Tell that to this MoFo.

I've lost count of how many times MLers were trying to school me of how anarchism's end-goal is delusional.

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 8 points 4 months ago

Yeah, I don't identify as a ML I just read books lol. Most people don't

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What an insufferable human. Fuck the police and fuck the state.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (102 children)

I do think hating socialist states with the same or worse ferocity that capitalist states get is a serious misjudgement. Administration is necessary for large scale production and distribution, whether you count that as a state or not. Communism as a stateless, classless, moneyless society would have no class, but would still have administration.

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[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Lmfao, the consistent dunking on the ml instance has got to be my handsdown favorite meta joke on Lemmy.

And the fact that the upvote to downvote ratio is perfectly split is chef's fucking kiss, hahahahaaa

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