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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And I was hoping you'd ground your views in reality.

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml -5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I guess I was hoping this would be a conversion. But I remain unconvinced and so you're lashing out.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 months ago

I'm just responding in kind, what I said is no more "lashing out" than what you said.

I'm more than happy to have a conversation, but that doesn't mean I can't recognize and call out impossible standards. You want a state that never persecuted anyone, show me a society where people didn't knock out all their teeth that didn't persecute anyone. Every society has murderers, and every society makes mistakes, and someone who is unjustly punished for a murder they didn't commit could certainly be said to have been persecuted, no? So I don't accept this standard.

[–] Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

Poorly laid bait doesn't invite conversion, you actually got to ease them into the trap with well build points and arguments first.