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[–] nil@piefed.ca 3 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Is there any way to avoid capitalism though

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 months ago (4 children)

We can move beyond capitalism and into socialism, several countries already do that.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Are there countries where there aren't people living paycheck to paycheck? I really can't think of any, unless we count some social safety net things but some capitalist countries have that

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Socialist countries generally have better safety nets, like China. Even Cuba, poor and sanctioned as it is, takes better care of its poorest than capitalist countries do.

[–] Saapas@piefed.zip 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

China has a shitload of people living paycheck to paycheck in miserable conditions. Up until 2014 (and even still) people outside of cities didn't even get proper social safety nets. Arguably even some capitalist countries are better off there.

I'm sure in theory China will have it better than anyone else at some point and whatnot but when it comes to this meme, it's not a great example tbh

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago (55 children)

China eradicated extreme poverty, and has been extremely consistent when it comes to improving quality of life year over year. Imperialist countries may have higher quality of life in some areas, such as the Nordics, but they are regularly deteriorating thanks to capitalism while China is regularly rising thanks to socialism.

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[–] ttyybb@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

red alert space quote

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

While living within it? No.

Your options are too go completely off grid, and homestead. Or to start a revolution and brutally enforce anti capitalist laws.

Even then, you're bound to some system of trade. But if you can cut yourself off from financial institutions you're doing pretty well.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Trade isn't the same thing as capitalism, to be fair. Socialist countries also exist.

[–] gkaklas@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Maybe not about your main employment, but I don't understand why some people feel forced to do some other things:

  • They love web advertisements, get attached to specific products, prefer using company names instead of general words
    • e.g. "I'm in Zoom call"; just say "a voice/video call" or whatever, why do you have to advertise the company and perpetuate the mentality that "voice calls" → "Zoom calls“ and that there's only one product people should use
    • same with sodas, medicine, browsers, search engines, tissues, copy machines, cleaning products, etc
  • Social media posts: they feel the need to advertise themselves (I'm not just talking about work-related stuff); some people can't just post a nice vacation photo, and need to use it as an opportunity to act as influencers etc
  • I would say that some types of "I have to do a bad thing to someone else, otherwise they will do it to me" could be classified as capitalistic as well; no, Bob, no one is forcing you to undercut your coworker (except if you work in a company that uses KPIs etc maliciously)
  • The mentality that your hobbies can/should be used for profit, and that profit is the main reason anyone would do something that requires some time to do
    • I've written some open source stuff (code.gkak.la), and when I mention something I made to some people, their first reaction was "that's great; so how are you going to sell it?"; and when I try to explain about open source (especially for personal scripts etc), they just can't comprehend why would anyone do something like that, if not for profit
    • I've seen the same mentality online, around people being makers (e.g. knitting, 3d printing)
  • People adding advertisements to their super low-traffic personal blogs, and people arguing about the "lost income opportunity" or sth (??)