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The lost tape of UNIX V4 was found, I gave it a spin and was amazed how fast you feel familiar using it.

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[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)

When I have to console into the old Solaris boxes at work, I'm reminded both of how many quality-of-life enhancements we enjoy on modern Linux, and also why I will always default to vi as my editor.

[–] helix@feddit.org 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Every time I do not have to use vi as editor I'm glad there's CUA editors like micro which I don't need my three year computer science degree for.

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (3 children)

which I don't need my three year computer science degree for.

vi really isn't complex.

CUA editors

CUA editors work as long as there is grid display and ANSI input. They do not work in a line feed or console-line environment like telnet, console, etc., hence the need for hjkl movement.

Also CUA is an IBM initiative, it wasn't followed everywhere.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I just boot straight into eMacs.

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Emacs is a stranger breed of ppl than vi users still... Kudos.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

CUA was not followed everywhere, but it was followed by CDE and so it was native to Solaris.

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Yes, well CDE doesn't enter into the equation over a minicom console. As I said, cua isn't super useful in line-feed environments.

I haven't seen CDE in over 20yrs.

[–] helix@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Vi is unintuitive and annoying to me. Others can use whatever they want but I can't stand people who tell others they're wrong for not preferring vi.

I use micro in my console, or rather terminal. Why wouldn't it work over telnet when it works via SSH?

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Vi is unintuitive and annoying to me.

Totally fair, I only learned because I was forced to.

Why wouldn't it work over telnet when it works via SSH?

Serial consoles feed back information one line at a time, so no curses interfaces. No arrow keys, just hjkl. Anything that needs to count characters and columns (like position-based cursor editors like nano) won't work over telnet.

in my console, or rather terminal

A serial console and a terminal aren't the same thing.

If you like micro, use micro. I don't care.

[–] med@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

I once had to edit and dump a Cisco config from a 10 switch stack over 9600 baud.

It took ages, and then I realised my fancy new terminal still had a default scrollback limit set, and had to do it again.

Actual torture.