Weird, Netflix used to compete with piracy so well that many people stopped pirating altogether, by offering a more convenient service at a reasonable price that was hard for even the most stubborn of pirates to refuse and resulted in a massive boom for its own industry. I wonder what could have changed that caused the people to leave Netflix and return to piracy. Hmm. I wonder.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 132 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's a mystery! I'll never understand why the week after yet another price hike, I quit because of the price hike. I guess I just act randomly in response to price hikes.

[–] beckerist@lemmy.world 86 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

My issue was cutting out the sharing. I was paying for 4 screens at a time. Why should they care which 4 screens are being used?

Once I realized a decent VPN was $5/month, that I could get TV shows without the 35% time addition of commercials, and stop worrying about what I get going away, the issue wasn't that Netflix was bad, it was just worse than the alternative.

edit: not that Netflix has commercials, but the fact one could get anything without them as well (like paying for cable...)

[–] _dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz 31 points 9 months ago

not that Netflix has commercials

There's a tier with commercials for many countries now.

[–] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 48 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I fondly recall excitedly using Netflix on my PS3 all the fucking time in like 2011. It was cheap, there was an app right there on the device I already bought, and there was a pretty good selection of content that got updated frequently enough. I had friends who would pirate and I was interested in getting into that until Netflix came along and completely fulfilled the need for me. The incredible convenience made it worth it over the work to learn how to pirate and the time to safely find everything and the risk of getting caught, and then even after doing all of that it would be on a computer and not just a couple of button presses from my couch. I know piracy has gotten to a point now where it's much more convenient, but back then it was a totally different beast. All of this was. YouTube was so much better for users and for certain classes of creators. Media and media platforms across the board are fucking terrible compared to back then. We used to chastise people for still having cable because Netflix was so fucking incredible in comparison. Idk what comes next, but these streaming companies are on the way out if they don't figure it the fuck out. At this point, I'd rather go backwards to go to a goddamn Blockbuster these days.

Your local library probably has a better selection of movies and TV for free than any streaming service you might consider paying for. Let's starve these beasts.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I miss my local movie store. Going to the movie store added a little adventure to movie night. Go out, browse a little. Get a stack of movies you have no clue about. Stop and get Chinese, maybe ice cream.

Ok, it doesn't make sense anymore but I still miss it.

[–] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I think that still makes sense. Sometimes it feels like stuff like streaming and amazon orders have reduced our need to leave our homes. In general, this is largely a good thing, but I fear that people are becoming a little too isolated and aren't being exposed to social interactions nearly as much. I don't think people know how to respectfully disagree anymore, and I think that might lead to higher tension and make socializing even harder on people. I'm only 35, but it really does feel like most kids are having a more passive childhood than I remember having, and many adults today also live passively while feeling nostalgic for their more actively lived childhood. I don't think people are particularly happy with life being this efficient and convenient.

So yeah, go out and get a movie and some Chinese food. Have a conversation with a stranger. I bet you'll enjoy that more than doordash and scrolling through netflix.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Everyone decided they wanted to have their own streaming and wanted a bigger piece of the pie. That fragmented where to watch and caused old shows and movies to cost way more for streaming rights.

Then Netflix cancels too many originals without proper endings, which passes people off. After that they got rid of password sharing which made it a pain to have a work and home type of viewing experience. Now they're adding ads. They've become shit and now it's making it a bit harder for themselves.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It was inevitable and that's even why Netflix started making their own content. Honestly, they should have made deals with the cable companies explaining if they entered the space they would create a consumer hostile environment and destroy the market. They probably wouldn't have listened but Netflix should have known their only product was convenience.

[–] DashboTreeFrog@discuss.online 15 points 9 months ago

I used to sail the seas like freakin Luffy, but Netflix and Steam (plus becoming a wage earning adult) got me on the straight and narrow for a good long while. Then when all the different services started to compete I started dipping my toes in the water again with some sense of guilt. But after various struggles getting Netflix running in different locations I frequent and my parents not being able to use my account anymore, I have no shame flying the Jolly Roger.

[–] PlainSimpleGarak@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

2015 - 2018 I pirated very, very little. Didn't need to. Between Netflix, Hulu, and HBO, I wanted for nothing. Then, every time I went to the bathroom, someone was creating their own streaming service. Suddenly everyone was pulling their IP from Netflix and Hulu. Netflix wouldn't stop raising their prices. Their original shows are ok, but their movies are terrible.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 9 months ago

Is it more that the original pricing model was unsustainable though? Like they were making a loss, or being funded continuously to capture the market and then raise prices?

Obviously it doesn’t help that all the shareholders want their cut and thus the money has to come from somewhere.