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China is very vocal about taiwan being theirs.
Edit: Insane how much this this one factual statement has been interpreted.
Both the PRC and ROC (Taiwan) claim sovereignty over all of China. Neither considers the island of Taiwan to be distinct from China, the question is over which government has legitimate sovereignty over all of China, and the overwhelming consensus globally is that it's the PRC. Taiwan's government is made up of the ones that lost the Chinese Civil War and fled to the island, slaughtered resistance, and have been protected by the west.
Legitimately asking, not trying to make a point; how long ago was that?
1949 was when the KMT retreated to Taiwan and declared martial law.
Oof, okay.
Yep, it coincides with the founding of the PRC in 1949, because that was when the CPC won the civil war against the KMT. Here's a good background.
And Taiwan is very vocal about having airspace that goes several hundred miles over mainland China. Taiwan is also very vocal about being a part of china, so what are you gonna do?
Also, why would I be against a full incorporation of Taiwan into China, if it has popular support? The island was occupied by the fascist Kuomintang, the party carried out a genocide on the native population and it's only around to day because it can function as a military launching ground for the US.
What's the actual rational explanation for why Taiwan should become an independent nation when that's not what Taiwan wants nor what China wants and doing so would only be in the interest of the imperialist US?
If this is the kind of stuff you actually care about, then why not start with all the national sovereignty that whatever place you're from doesn't respect? You know, something you can actually influence, instead of doing something that just so happens to further imperialist interests?
Popular support where? Taiwan is a healthy democracy and last I heard they will die before accepting Chinese dictatorship. And why would the US start a war with China that they'll never win?
Taiwan is a dictatorship of capital, not a working class democracy, and was an outright dictatorship for decades when the KMT retreated from the mainland to Taiwan and declared martial law. Taiwan considers itself to be the legitimate government over all of China, not as a distinct island from China, which is why this is a remnant of the Chinese Civil War.
The US would rather sacrifice Taiwan to contain and damage China, because as China develops the US Empire decays. That's why the US Empire has millitary bases all surrounding China, to keep it boxxed in.
Further, the PRC is democratic, the vast majority of people say the government reflects the will of the people:
It is theirs. If you support Taiwanese separatism then you should be consistent and support all separatist movements. There's plenty in Europe you should support them.
Do you have a reasonable explanation of why it should be the US's and not theirs?
Can't it just be Taiwan's?
Taiwan claims the mainland is theirs, the mainland claims Taiwan is theirs, because both claim to be the legitimate government of all of China, and Taiwan is a part of China.
Taiwan exists only because the US intervened to stop the fascists it supported in the civil war from being wiped out, so it's necessarily a US protectorate/puppet.
And to circle back again to your question, no it couldn't be; they killed the people who were there before they moved in.
Probably because it clearly is