MULTIVERSE is a PieFed instance for soulists. Our rules are designed to create a safe space for minorities, including those considered unreal by society. We are also an anarchist instance and do not allow tankie propaganda. We aim for transparent and fair moderation in line with the principles of anarcho-antirealism, and to be fertile ground for discussion of soulist ideology. We also aim to be intuitive to use for new fediverse denizens who don't care how federation works, and are just interested in the politics. Our manifesto can be found at http://soulism.net/.

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[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (12 children)

You technically answered my question, but that verges in strawman territory, man. I was talking about the absurdity of considering gravity a form of human oppression. Can you tell me why I shouldn't see it as absurd, given that it's a natural, inescapable law?

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 1 week ago (11 children)

I don't really care whether you see gravity as inescapable (though I'm glad the Wright brothers didn't), but there are other "natural, inescapable laws" that are completely fake, and some people cause a lot of harm by attacking those who break them. And so I want you to be open to the concept of people accomplishing the impossible, so that you won't be one of those people.

For example, gender essentialists claim that sex is a "natural, inescapable law". And that makes them transphobic. Species essentialists claim that species is a "natural, inescapable law", and not just a convenient social construct biologists use to make their jobs easier. And that makes them kinphobic.

I want you to open your mind to the impossible and question everything.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (10 children)

I want you to open your mind to the impossible and question everything.

I can certainly do that.

I don’t really care whether you see gravity as inescapable

Well, this is not helping.

But sorry, absolutely no one can escape gravity. It's everywhere in the universe. Can you escape Earth's gravity? Sure. Good luck escaping the solar system's gravity, or the galaxy's gravity, or the local cluster's gravity. So that's my point. The Wright Brothers "example" is a non-starter.

Everything else you mentioned are not "natural laws." They are human/social constructs, which you pointed out and we can agree on.

But I thought soulism went beyond that. It's okay. Today I learned something new. Thanks.

[–] rako@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A more interesting way is to understand that there is a difference between what is and how it affects us. The point isn't so much to decide whether gravity exists or not but to make sure it doesn't impose any unfair weight (ha) on some members of the society and not others. When we say "it's just exists" we're very close to say "there's nothing we can do about this" and that justifies unfair situations.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I understand. Thanks!

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