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The Protein-Obsessed Fast Food Industry's Latest Innovation: Big-Ass Cups of Plain Meat (www.jezebel.com)

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[...] I asked the man behind the counter if the Steak Nuggets were such a hasty retreat because they were unpopular with his diners. He said the following: “Well, we were one of the last stores to have those things, because nobody bought ’em.”

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[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Define harm. If a pig is born and raised by a meatpacking operation, there's a pig that would never have been born without the meatpacking operation - if it is raised and slaughtered humanely (which they aren't, these days), is it harmed? If people are starving due to shutdown of all inhumane meatpacking operations, have we reduced overall harm?

[–] pilferjinx@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't understand your point too well, especially in relation to my point that vegetable farming also harms animals. But yeah, humans cause a tremendous amount of harm, which I'm defining as general suffering in this particular case. People won't starve because there's less meat being produced, but it seems like you're arguing that reducing meat consumption will cause more overall suffering?

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 1 points 4 days ago

Nothing happens in isolation... Producing a little less meat shouldn't cause additional harm, but shutting down a lot of meat production all at once would cause a lot of harm - starting with people who make their living both directly and indirectly from the industry, and if you shut down enough of it all at once you'd be disrupting enough of the supply chain that even people who just consume the food are going to run into problems.

We should strive to do better, but avoid arguments like "STOP ALL X NOW!" - it's overreaching, and would be counterproductive if you actually achieved it.