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LFS drops support for System V, citing workload problems and upstream dependencies on systemd
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Surely you’re not serious.
My tiny pebble of help won’t hold back the tides of the desktop environments carving the myriad packages that make up linux into what they need at the behest of whoever keeps their maintainers in new shoes.
Even if it could, choosing the de over the init system in lfs shows where the priorities lie. To quote the linked mailing list message, the decision has to be made. Individual people who see that as a worse path can’t change a thing.
i'm not actually serious. you'd have to organize with the people who also want it done, like the systemd people do.
Organizing with people who also want it done, like the systemd people did at the behest of their employer to solve one of its many problems selling linux as a centrally manageable replacement for their competitors’ products.
At some point we have to acknowledge the elephant in the room using an elephant sized lathe and an army of paid workers to shape linux. The days when people could band together and make decisions about the future of this operating system have been over for over fifteen years now.
and you address that by finding the people who also want it done and deciding how you are gonna find the solution to your problem. there is definetly not a shortage of groups forking of old DEs and maintaining them for years.
the people behind systemd found someone to pay them for it, and seem to attract most of the people and companies interested in working on it.
my suspicion is that there just ain't enough people interested in other systems.