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[–] felixwhynot@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Eh… I’m not sold by this. For me the “punk” aspect is about people taking hopeful actions that go against the grain. Focusing on the authority of any government is a pretty weak sell. Let’s cultivate hope in people!

[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 weeks ago

People don't just need hope, they need education, safety nets, access to healthcare, job security. Going against the grain won't magically change any of these things.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

In China, the government is run by the people. The people of China collaboratively chart a course for the future, towards a hopeful course of development, based on scientific socialism. In being a socialist country, China is taking actions that go against the grain, focusing on mutual development, industrialization, and prosperity.

In China, they have direct elections for local representatives, which elect further "rungs," laddering to the top. The top then has mass polling and opinion gathering. This combination of top-down and bottom-up democracy ensures effective results. For more on this, see Professor Roland Boer's Socialism in Power: On the History and Theory of Socialist Governance. This system is remarkably effective, resulting in over 90% approval rates.

Is it not punk to radically “abolish the present state of things,” as Marx says, and which the PRC is steadfastly working towards? Hell, Rage Against the Machine has even quoted Mao.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Its insane how Liberals will see a well functioning society and decide they would rather live under the dictatorship of capital

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Largely stems from chauvinism that hasn't been confronted yet. They realize that capitalism is bad, but they still believe that it's impossible for anyone to be doing better than the west.

[–] LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

chauvanism

BTW it's "chauvinism". I don't mean to be an asshole, I just see this incorrect spelling of this specific word very often. 100% agree with your comment.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

Damn you got me lol, thanks! I don't have auto-correct on my phone (privacy reasons) so I make spelling errors frequently. Thanks!

[–] Dr_Vindaloo@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Love how this has 15 downvotes but not a single reply 💀

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I just banned like 6 of them, dead or no-content accounts.

Liberals using bot accounts to try to manipulate public opinion (as they do on reddit and the rest of the western internet), is gonna be one of the bigger problems in the fediverse for the foreseeable future, so we have to stay ahead of it.

At this point they're just targeting specific ppl like @Cowbee@lemmy.ml, but they'll eventually start doing it en masse.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 weeks ago

Figured that may have been the case, considering it was a reasonable comment getting heavily downvoted in a thread where other pro-PRC comments weren't as inorganically downvoted.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 weeks ago

That's pretty common, actually. People would rather silently downvote than try to actually engage with academic literature regarding the PRC's democratic process.

[–] KimBongUn420@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 weeks ago

Hexbear stays winning with the removed downvote, which forces you to reply if you disagree with the content