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[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 82 points 9 months ago (3 children)

It's so much easier to just go to class and do the assignment work.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 40 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The same mentality that tries to cheat also doesn't understand that actually knowing the material is crucial to actually doing the job.

Sure, they'll argue that we only use about 2 weeks of accumulated college knowledge in our professional careers, and that claim apparently checks out; but it's the very last few weeks that we've built on the years of pre-req that we use later on. I.e it's just the tip of the iceberg, but it's the tip of a fucking iceberg.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It also disregards all the secondary and tertiary benefits to "knowing the material" and those benefits of doing the work to get there.

Like honing your ability to research, skills in pulling the actual useful info out of diverse sources of vastly differing quality, speed at which you can pick up new ideas and concepts, etc.

Part of what you're learning is how to do the boring grunt work of learning itself, and honing your skills at that through experience

The most boring days of my job are when I just need to follow well written directions or documentation. The real test is when you're past that and you need to combine multiple things to meet your specific situation, when no one who has figured it out before ever documented it in one easy place.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is just what happens when you send a bunch of people to higher education who didn't really want to go.

[–] meat_popsicle@sh.itjust.works 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well, if the piece of paper wasn’t necessary to make enough money to split an apartment with 3 other strangers, I’m sure fewer people would go.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

We really need to stop forcefeeding kids this rubbish anyway.

Your life is not over if you don't go to college. It should be perfectly acceptable to get other jobs, and see what you want to do in life. There's no magic pot of jobs for graduates. Office jobs are easily done from overseas. You know what can't be done by some poor Indian earning $10 a day? Unblocking my toilet. Plastering my walls. Fitting my bathroom. Making my food. Emptying my bins.

Yeah, they're not glamorous. Yeah, you're not going to be a billionaire doing those things. But you know what? You weren't anyway.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Also universities shouldn't be required for technical jobs. They can be trained. Universities are so research oriented because they were about science and figuring shit out. Healthcare is an excellent example. We require so much education for positions someone can do with half or a quarter of the training time. An 8 year program should be for the top spots and specialists.

[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

And your back is screwed after two decades. There’s a reason why people don’t want their kids to do those shitty jobs.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 10 points 9 months ago

It's interesting to me that mental effort is generally avoided by the majority of people.

They'll go to extreme lengths to simply, not have to solve the problem themselves.