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"In Germany after National Socialism we have all been brainwashed to support genocide and Zioism and have to legally support our government sending weapons to a genocide because we like the previous one so much. Also we have a Gestapo which enforces this just like how we did in WW2".
Literally putting on the classic Nazi disclaimer
Can you explain why Germans have learned absolutely nothing from the Holocaust?
America and Western Europe were more interested in fighting the cold war, so they rehabilitated most of the nazis and put them in charge of everything.
This is only one small example, the practice was widespread in West German as well as NATO generally.
Notice the extreme difference here, between 77% and 14%. Even if East Germany's de-nazification was probably not as thorough as it could and should have been due to practical concerns, it was still nothing like in the West. I'm saying this because I fully expect the "both sides did it" deflection from westerners (which is what the linked article is obviously trying to do in this quote). Notice also "senior officials" vs. "workers".
I don't disagree with your assessment that some kind of propaganda in support of zionism and maybe even genocide is happening. But if you really see support of genocide and zionism in what I personally just said, I really don't know what I could say to convince you. It seems you're not truly listening to me and trying to understand. I can just hope eventually you will see that there is no point to us fighting, and I wish you well.
Edit: and to say "Germans have learned literally nothing from the Holocaust" is just ridiculous. You're using false hyperbole to make Germans in general (who have very diverse political opinions individually!) seem like literal evil, and that simply helps no one except the ones that want us to fight.
The German government is sending 30% the weapons to mass murder Palestinians in a concentration camp. This denial of full German government support for genocide is why nobody takes Germans seriously when they claim to care about the Holocaust. Take a long hard look at this image and see what you can take away from it
If you cannot differentiate the German government from me or the people of Germany, then I can't help you. "Full" is something entirely different. I hate what my government is doing.
Oh no, people are not trying to understand your subtle and nuanced argument of "Palestinian genocide and the Holocaust are different because the Jews never fought back".
You are trying to reduce my argument to one dimension that "sounds" reasonable, while ignoring things like it literally being in the charter of Hamas to destroy all Jewish people in Israel. And you're going to say it is the prerogative of Palestinians to fight back, and again I would completely agree with you. It just doesn't make much sense to argue with you, so I'm going to stop.
You mean the outdated charter that has since been replaced to clarify opposition to the settler colonial state, rather than Jews as a whole?
That is good and I did not know that.
Oh, yeah, that's so much better. "We will keep fighting until we eliminate a country" is such a peaceful and lovable sentiment!
You mean the colony established over the legitimate Palestinian State? This is like saying it's bad to fight for the abolition of the Reichskommissariats.
They're a genocide defender from a Finnish instance, they might actually think that.
I love how you guys call me a "genocide defender" after I've stated so many times that Netanyahu and everybody responsible for the genocide should be tried and eliminated. :D
You're exactly like MAGA - a fundamentalist who believes that if someone isn't 100% committed to ALL tenets of your cause, they're a traitor and an enemy. This tribalism is pathetic and a cancer on our society.
Ok but you don't reject the Israeli State. Which was founded on a genocide. This is like saying you're anti-genocide but you support the US's right to exist.
I disagree here.
Palestinians and Israelites lived in the region for - literally - thousands of years, but neither had a nation. The exact same resolution that established Israel, also established Palestine, and that happened after the "civil war" between them. It wasn't genocide, it was a ham-fisted attempt at stopping a genocide, because both parties wanted to eliminate the other.
Do I agree to all Israel's policies, including the occupation of West Bank and Gaza? Absolutely not. Do I agree that the way these two nations were established was correct? Absolutely not.
But this is what they got, and they need to learn to live with it. Just like Qatar did. Or Yemen. Or Saudi Arabia, the Emirates, and Jordan, etc. They were all established by the colonial powers after the fall of the Ottoman Empire, they were all created by moronic Europeans who divided the land based off of oil reserves, and not history, culture, or religion. But - somehow - you don't see Qatar fighting Bahrain non stop, or Emirates bombing the Saudis.
I'm against going "ooh, but historically X should be Y". What's the historical state you want to turn back the borders to? Should Poland stop existing because we're turning back time to the 18th century? Are we going back to 19th century, where Ukraine was under the russian boot? What is the "correct" state of the world's borders, in your opinion?
You think this is because of Netanyahu and that this genocide is a recent thing? This genocide is inherent to the state of "Israel", which is a settler colony. If you believe "Israel" should exist, you are a genocide defender.
No, I just think people who think colonialism is acceptable are enemies. Because you are.
Yes, the genocide is a recent thing considering the Palestinian population has been steadily growing, while their culture was not in any danger of being wiped out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're out to get you right after they've finished eating their newborn babies. WTF are you smoking,
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what "genocide" means.
Funnily enough - YOU are a proponent of genocide, if you believe the Israelites should have their nationality removed. That's literally one of the defining aspects of a genocide.
I don't defend colonialism >as defined in real life<. It's not what you consider to be "colonialism", but that's just because you're a fundamentalist and an extremist.
lmao, Nakba AND colonialism denial. Excellent.
More colonialism denial.
Yeah, it's all just colonialism denial. You are a genocidal colonialism supporter. No amount of calling "Israelis" "Israelites" to pretend they're native to the region and not colonizers will make it true.
Where did I deny colonialism? I acknowledge the fact that Israel is occupying (and colonising) the West Bank and Gaza, I firmly believe they should be pushed out and forced to pay reparations for the decades of stealing land and killing Palestinians.
Is this "colonialism denial" to you?
Israelis vs Israelites might come from language barrier. English is not my native language.
But saying they're not native to the region when we have archaeological and historical evidence of them being there over 3000 years ago is either extreme ignorance, or fundamentalist extremism.
You literally deny colonialism in the sentence after asking where you deny it. "Israel" is a settler colony in its entirety, not just in the West Bank and Gaza. Once again, Ben Gurion, who committed the Nakba, was very clear about this. So was Herzl, the main forefather of the "Israeli" state.
"Israelis" are the modern day settlers. "Israelites" are the ancient people. "Israelis" are not native to the region. They are mainly europeans, as well as Arab Jews from elsewhere in West Asia and North Africa. Palestinians are native to the region and are descendants of the Israelites who never left.
It's like you don't even read my comments, just default to "wah, wah, wah, you're a colonialism denier, wah, wah, wah!"
There's no reason to continue this conversation in this context.
I read your comments denying genocide, that's why I reply by calling you a genocide denier. I have explained over and over, but you don't believe colonialism is genocidal because you are a genocide denier. It seems you also don't even believe colonialism is colonialism.
I agree, I'm not sure why I even bothered to reply to an obvious genocidal zionist for so long.
The Palestinian people are a people who have lived in that region for hundreds of years, just because they were previously occupied by Ottomans doesn't mean there's no material basis for the nation of Palestine being present in the region. The Jews like the Roma are a stateless nation and we do not need a state. Further, Jews have remained present in Palestine and have peacefully coexisted with them, there's no reason to believe they wouldn't be represented under a Palestinian state. Palestinians themselves, were decedents of the Ancient Israelites who converted to Islam. Aggression between the two groups only started when a genocidal settler colony began using our name, the Jewish People, to justify their actions.
So, exactly like Israelites? Good to see that you actually agree with them having a right to a nation state!
Well, if you ignore all historical data that has very clearly shown Jews and Israelites being persecuted in the region, which was the region for them leaving it in large enough numbers to be considered a stateless nation like the Roma - yeah, then you're absolutely correct.
Again, you'd be correct if you ignore the entirety of the history of the region. The persecution of Israelites started around 700 BCE, mate.
I really don't need some kkkrakkker ass fucking Finn to lecture me about my own people's history just so they can perpetrate the antisemitic correlation of my people to a fucking genocide. So back to Sieg Heiling the statue of Simo The Jew Slayer erected in your town plaza because your people never forgave the Soviets for beating them and their nazi allies in the Second World War.
You're a fundamentalist extremist and a hateful human. Be better.
Finnish genocide enjoyer lectures a Jewish man about how he's hateful for objecting to his culture being used as a shield for colonialism. Almost reads like parody.
You're the kind of person who calls another "Finnish" just because of the instance they're on. You're not interested in humanity, you're only interested in labels. It's sad and evil.
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Oh, my apologies. It's totally better if you're a different type of gentile genocide enjoyer lecturing a Jewish man about his own people in order to support a settler colony. /s
Excuse me if I'm not concerned with a zionist's opinion about "humanity".
Again: you're not reading what I'm writing, you're only seeing "he's not 100% agreeing with me, therefore he's a Nazi Zionist colonialist genocide proponent".
It's pathetic, really.
As I said:
The one you are referring to is the 1988 one written 50 years ago that immediately became irrelevant just a few years after it was written. It was and has been irrelevant since basically the beginning
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Hamas_charter
edit: if it's not clear, my tone isn't meant to be debate or assholeish but genuine correction on that point, i just noticed that specific part from this thread and wanted to correct the record
How surprising, you're doing Hasbara. The charter was irrelevant soon after it was written, Hamas changed many times very quickly throughout its history, and the charter you're referring to was in fact literally replaced with a new one in 2017. You are a zionist.
No, you wouldn't and you didn't. The trick of "fighting back is their right but they're doing it wrong" isn't fooling anyone.
And there it is the Zionist blood libel against Palestinians and repeat of genocide propaganda.