Should admins have the ability to discard votes, and if so, which admins? Should community mods have that ability? Can you think of any ways that tools like this could be abused?

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[–] john_t@piefed.ee 16 points 1 day ago (5 children)

No one is here for the internet points. Why worry about imaginary karma?

[–] Pamasich@kbin.earth 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Because it affects visibility of content.

Read OP's post, they're worrying about manipulation, not karma whoring or harassment.

Stuff like bots mass up or downvoting a post to promote or hide it.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Downvotes don't seem to be much of a factor in post visibility, at least in scaled mode?

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 3 points 21 hours ago

They are in /hot/, which is likely to be vastly more common than scaled.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not if you sort be New.

[–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 20 points 1 day ago

If we expect to be remotely large, sorting by new only is infeasible.

[–] alonsohmtz@feddit.uk 8 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Voting is an indicator of agreement/disagreement and will influence how people feel about a certain post.

Keep in mind, most people are just trying to look good in front of their peers.

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 7 points 23 hours ago

It's literally how what you see is regulated. If a company X wanted to hide products from company Y, they could make bots to auto-downvote Y products and upvotes X products.

Granted, I feel like more commonly vote manipulation is done for geopolitical reasons rather than astroturfing

[–] lath@piefed.social 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Well, I'm here for the internet points. I'm a hoarder, so I like collecting stuff, internet points included.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 1 points 20 hours ago

You must love cookie banners 😋

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Because at least on piefed you get punished if downvoted too much

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Yes piefed is known to exact CCP-style hidden moderation.

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (3 children)

It's a shame honestly, I feel like Piefed without up/downvotes at all would work better. No algorithm, thanks.

[–] Blaze@piefed.zip 2 points 14 minutes ago

https://piefed.blahaj.zone/ already has downvotes disabled, disabling the reputation warning features as well (you can't get bad attitude if you can't give downvotes)

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 3 points 13 hours ago

Piefed doesn't incorporate any of this into an algorithm.

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 18 hours ago

Eh, it still has some good things and in theory since this is FOSS someone could just, like, fork it and remove the whole shadow cabal moderation thingy.