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There is a world of room between “good” and “ran a child sex trafficking ring”. Clinton may be a POS for many reasons and he may have visited Epstine island and maybe even raped children (we don’t know at this point but anyone in the flight logs is sus). That is all absolutely terrible but it’s still very different than kidnapping 10’s or hundreds of children to rape and pimp. And the files seem to indicate that Trump was actively involved in this scheme for decades.
Seems to me that once you reach raping children stages there's no need to split hairs further.
Yes, a thousand times yes.
Also, alll those people in the files that were in active contact with Epstein after it was public knowlegde he was a child molester deserve no respect and should be investigated as well.
Fair. I do think scale is sometime important. A single murder is not a genocide. But I can see your POV.
Regardless, Clinton is awful but IDK what he did on the island. If he did rape kids then I hope they throw his ass in jail.
Yeah, the clinton wing of the party would never support just one murder.
I want a worse fate for him if so, however, I don't want it to be a distraction from the existing Pedo in Chief and their ilk.
There’s no evidence he did anything inappropriate with kids.
Trump, however, has been accused by multiple Epstein victims.
"There's no evidence this longtime Epstein associate who flew multiple times on a plane called the Lolita Express did anything inappropriate with kids"
Well?
You're implying that there is.
So where is it? You're setting expectations extremely high for yourself.
Gonna need that evidence.
You know things are going well for your wealthy rapist of choice when you're reduced to saying "Well can you prove that he was doing the things that everyone around him was also doing?"
The scumbag was accused decades before this came out by plenty women even during his university years.
He got away with it because of his position.
And once a rapist always a rapist.
You can delude yourself all you want if you think he didn't go to Epstein Island to rape kids.
disgusting
Correct. Epstein had connections to his charities. Was for humanitarian work.
You think Trump released the files with more evidence of him fucking kids than Clinton if there was any other option?
Yeah man the president of the united states totally needed the funding and connections of a known pedophile in order to do some vague, nondescript "social work".
He didn’t need to, but he was not a known pedophile, and the travel was tied publicly tied to Clinton foundation work like the 2002 Africa trip for HIV/AIDS.
Again, you think Trump hid evidence of Clinton’s wrongdoings but published damning things on himself?
Trump is trying to drop the Epstein files entirely, if anyone involved is implicated then everyone involved is implicated, as it establishes the validity of guilt among those involved with Epstein, that’s why literally no one other than Maxwell has done any time for any of this fucked up nonsense, and they’re actively trying to undo any of her punishment with far more fervor than they’re putting into investigating anything else in the files. If he goes after Clinton then that would establish that there is reason to properly investigate and prosecute others in the files, and nobody is in the files more than Trump. He doesn’t want anyone to go down for any of it, because that would be painting a target on himself by way of legal precedence. It’s all just an act of self preservation by the system of pedophiles running the country from top to bottom, if one goes down then they could all go down.
riiight....but they contain plenty of incriminating information about Trump. Where's the incriminating information about Clinton?
In the files. I’m not going to read them for you. Wipe your own ass. I’m not saying they blatantly say “Bill Clinton rapes children” but there is far more than enough in there to justify an investigation, at the very least. Taking a private flight on the violent child rape traffic plane to party on violent child rape island with the world’s most prolific violent child rapist and violent child rape trafficker is, and this might just be me, a little bit suspicious.
I have read them check my post history.
If you had read them and there was anything incriminating like there is for Trump you would’ve said that instead of repeating the flying on his plane thing again.
Sure. A stranger on the internet not going through six million pages of evidence to build a court case with absolute proof against a politician for another stranger on the internet definitely means I haven’t looked into anything, couldn’t possibly be that I really don’t give a shit to try to change the perspective of someone via a forum argument, it also definitely means Clinton never did anything wrong while repeatedly interacting with people and places where children were raped and murdered to the point that there was a joke portrait of him hanging on the wall. No reason to look into that.
You wouldn’t need to it’d be plastered everywhere. You don’t think anyone else has looked? So yes it is evidence you do not have anything more than that.
I never said with certainty he was cleared of any wrongdoing. Just that there was no evidence he knew or was involved.
There’s also no evidence he went to the island, all they show is that Clinton flew on one of his foundations donors private 727 on several occasions between 2002 and 2003, primarily for Clinton Foundation humanitarian work in Africa, Europe, and Asia.
And he was deposed and testified in front of congress a few weeks ago. Far more than can be said for any of the actual suspected pedophiles based on the released info.
I agree that everyone in the files should be investigated fully, that includes Clinton. I haven’t said he for sure did anything, I’m saying any and all involved should be investigated under the assumption that they did do something. I don’t think we saw anything close to an honest deposition of anyone in the files, and until the names of everyone other than the victims are public knowledge I don’t trust any part of any of it. I don’t trust the system handling any of it, and until people start going down I’m not going to trust that anyone in those files to that degree deserve even a hint of doubt that they raped kids, that’s the only thing we absolutely know for sure was happening.Until someone goes down for things to show that they are actually chasing convictions for these well known, far reaching, well documented, and utterly heinous crimes then I don’t trust any part of the act they’re putting on. They’ve given us no reason to trust what they say, and in fact have given multiple reasons to not trust anything they say about any of this.
I’m not trusting what they say, I’m using the available evidence which indicates no wrongdoing for Clinton and a truck load for Trump so my original comment stands.
If Trump was able to successfully hide incriminating evidence he would’ve done so for himself.
I swear, it's impossible to parody lesser-evilists because you're all self-parodies at this point.
Both Clintons are in the Epstein files hundreds of times. They also both happen to be war criminals.
Yeah, the Clintons have done absolutely terrible things. I would never claim otherwise. I don’t remember the Clinton administration very well but I don’t doubt that he’s a war criminal.
The meme claims that Bill was “keeping child sex slaves” and that isn’t supported by any evidence that I’ve seen.
Everyone involved should get investigated and tried for any and all crimes.
Indeed they should, but they won’t, because they’re above the law. They shouldn’t be above the law, but they objectively are. What you’re seeing isn’t some rare exception, it’s a peek behind the curtain of how the United States is actually run, and it’s nothing like how it’s supposed to work on paper.
You don't need to defend the lesser evil just because it's lesser.
Pretend they're comedians. Pretend you're comparing Louis CK to Bill Cosby. You don't need to defend CK just because Cosby is worse.
We keep being told to not let the perfect be the enemy of the good. There is no good on offer. Just varying levels of reprehensible shit.
That’s kinda the point I was making. The meme says “these guys kept child sex slaves”. Someone responds that Clinton didn’t have the same level of involvement as Trump and Epstein. Someone else responded “they want to believe their guy is good”. My response is basically “saying that he isn’t a pimp isn’t saying that he’s good”.
There are different levels of evil. All should be dealt with. Maybe the worst (the pimps, traffickers, ringleaders and financiers) should get priority, especially if they pose a greater threat to everyone else? Pointing that out is in no way excusing the lesser evil.
I haven’t seen anyone in this thread saying anything positive about Clinton. At most, a few folks have pointed out that we haven’t seen any rape accusations against Clinton in the files. I doubt that you’ll find anyone here who doesn’t want this whole mess properly investigated and for all of the guilty parties to get appropriate punishment.
I feel like I could have this same argument with a Trump supporter: Trumpie: “Well, Clinton’s in the files too” Me: ”I haven’t seen anyone tangible accusations, but if he committed crimes then lock him up” T: “You just want to defend your guy” Me: “Um, I really don’t. And please refrain from calling him ’my guy’”
I've seen a lot of proactive defense of him from the same people who demanded unquestioning worship of the second worst genocide supporter. This is the same garbage.
Step back and realise that you're trying to quibble about levels of evil between child rapists.
But their oligarch can't be bad!
Yeah there is a difference between the pimp and the john.
And i still think Clinton should go to prison if he had sex with girls or trafficked women.
But that's not nearly at the level of punishment I think is fit for Trump , Epstein (assuming he's still alive) , maxwell, and all the others who raped children and engaged in violence and torture with them. And of course the men who funded Epstein's enterprise. And shielded him.
I also think any women who helped him deserves pretty bad punishment. You can be a victim and a predator. So their own victimizing doesn't get them off.
They broke an even more sacred pact between women.
Women believe other women can be trusted. We always have each other. We always look out for each other. Especially from a man trying to hurt us. We warn each other.
Women need this. We depend on it.
But they used this against girls and other women to lure them into danger.
Unforgivable.
Agreed. 100%