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[–] Shatur@lemmy.ml -4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Well, this is what those "liberated" cities look like:

Chasiv Yar

And dwellers of those cities can't just cross the frontline and start living in Russia. They only can evacuate deeper into Ukraine because otherwise they won't survive. And Ukrainian government doesn't build new houses for them. They give them a bit of money (but you won't be able to afford rent), and sometimes they offer quickly built barracks (trust me, you wouldn't want to live there). So I doubt you would find any of those "liberated" people happy.

If that's not enough, Russia also bombs electricity infrastructure in winter (it's a high demand season). Because of this, people across the country suffer from electricity outages. Imagine having only 3 hours of electricity per day (that's how it was in Odessa about a month ago). It's also quite cold in here. I'm not sure what Russia's strategy is, maybe they're trying to destroy the country's economy or hurt manufacturing abilities, but it's simply inhumane. Regular people suffer a lot because of it.

What I'm trying to say is that it's not about liberating people. Many Ukrainians hate their government, especially after TCR gone wild (it's like ICE, but much worse), and recent corruption scandals tied to Zelensky's inner circle. But it's replacing one shitty government with another. Russia is also corrupt, half of the internet is banned, you can't even access YouTube or popular Matrix servers, and LGBTQ is illegal (also, every time it's mentioned it's labeled with "the LGBT movement is recognized as extremist and banned in Russia" - here you can see this in a TASS article for example).

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Here's the city of Caen, France, after being "liberated" by the allies. Still think fighting nazis is cool??

Yeah dude, fighting makes places fucked up, what a stunning insight. I have no choice but to slap on an Azov patch and seig heil in the face of such moral wisdom.

[–] Shatur@lemmy.ml 1 points 57 minutes ago

France was occupied by Germany. When you start a war with another country because their government gone wild, it's not liberation. Is the US liberating the Iranian people?

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 hours ago

I jumped on the grenade and read this all so you don't have to folks

Nowhere in those three paragraphs is a good faith response to what ShimmeringKoi said. They went completely off topic and only tied it back insofar as to say 'and that's why it's not liberating'