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[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

What voting for Biden will accomplish is preventing Trump from entering office and all of my rights from being stripped away, and that is very important to me.

Your take seems to be "I'm so leftist I refuse to vote because voting is pointless." If that's correct, then I'm going to choose to believe you're a right wing troll who's trying to convince me not to vote so your candidate will win, because that's easier than believing that anyone on Earth is so far up their own ass that they've convinced themselves that doing nothing and letting the world get worse on its own is the best political statement they can make.

[–] joenforcer@midwest.social 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ignore this guy. I'm seeing a lot of "both sides bad" hot takes lately and I get the feeling we're seeing a lot of seeds of doubt disinformation spreading like we got back in 2016. Abandon the troll, he can't vote anyway.

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

"Anybody left of Biden is a troll and worse than Republicans"

Y'all out here claiming to not be fascist but you've got exactly one song to sing and it's fascist as hell. "We aren't fascist we're just the only chance to save this country and anybody left of us is explicitly less than human and will be referred to as such at every possible turn"

[–] joenforcer@midwest.social 1 points 9 months ago

Nobody said any of that. Get over your persecution complex.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes, just like voting Biden prevented abortion rights from being stripped away, or stopped the concentration camps on the border, or stopped endless wars. Yeah, I totally see why it's so important to vote Biden.

Again, I'll try spell it out for you. I absolutely don't care whether you vote or not. If it makes you feel like you're participating politically, go ahead vote for Biden and feel like you've accomplished something. Your country is still going to be fascist and your right will still be stripped away, but you'll get to feel really smug by having voted. The fact that Americans see voting as peak political participation is absolutely hilarious.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

WHAT. WOULD. YOU. HAVE. ME. DO. INSTEAD?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

Educate yourself on effective methods of building grassroots power. You can read up on how the labour movement organized in US back in the 30s which lead to the New Deal. Organize with people in your local community and help educate them. Join a principled organization that's trying to effect meaningful change.

Again, I'm not telling you not to vote. That's just a straw man you keep erecting here. What I'm actually telling you is that voting on its own doesn't accomplish much of anything.