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I Spoke To The Developer Of The Systemd Birth Date PR - YouTube (www.youtube.com)

submitted 1 day ago by Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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Some of you need to watch this video, and hang your head in shame.

Dylan Taylor has been receiving constant harassment, including threats to his life and safety, for actions done collectively by SystemD. The article by Sam Bent was explictly mentioned as part of the harassment campaign, and rightfully so.

I don't think enough people realize that this is catastrophically bad. It'll discourage people from becoming open source developers, it'll discourage people from using Linux, and it'll discourage legislators from taking the Linux community seriously.

If you ever wished ill upon another human being for complying with a relatively inconsequential law, you are better off never touching a computer again. The Linux community has collectively gone so far beyond what is acceptable here.

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[–] StealthLizardDrop@piefed.social 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

So when application developer such as Discord (an example) builds on top of these age controls and decides to not allow access to channels which are marked 13+?

What do you expect will happen?

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I expect that they will store your birthDate in their own way and not use systemd as they are not a Linux native application.

You get to choose if you install Discord and you get to choose if you are going to submit to their age verification.

This is true if the birthDate field exists in systemd or not.

[–] StealthLizardDrop@piefed.social 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

They DO have a linux native client though, and the whole idea of using systemd according to the PR author IS because application developers can then request this information from user profile

https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/40954

The xdg-desktop-portal project is adding an age verification portal
(flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal#1922) that needs a data source for the user's age.
userdb already stores personal metadata (emailAddress, realName, location)
so birthDate is a natural fit.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Discord does not use Linux user metadata to store information about your Discord account. Because the application is cross platform, they store information about you in their own systems, not in systemd. Their age verification is implemented completely independent of systemd and doesn't rely on the birthDate field.

It's also software that you can choose to not install.