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Virtual currencies are ‘fictions’, Take-Two argues in microtransaction theft lawsuit (www.videogameschronicle.com)
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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"This is spreading to everything." "It's not in everything yet."

Yeah. That's what spreading means.

Do you think this problem vanishes if it only infects 90% of games? You gonna tut and scold over this growing abuse, which you acknowledge is an abuse, so long as there's one game somewhere that didn't choose an invalid money-sucking business model? "Lol?"

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's not anywhere close to everything. There are far more quality games that don't do anything like it than quality games that do. It's primarily the same AAA shovelware that's also terrible for 50 other disastrous design decisions and isn't actually playable regardless of the business model.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's spreading TO everything. Do you understand what that means? It does not mean "it's in everything." It means: it's in a lot of things, and it's coming to a lot more things. Potentially: all of them.

And again - if it's not literally everything, does that make the problem go away? You, yourself, just now, said this business model is not valid. Why the fuck are you still defending its existence?

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

but every game that matters is liable to demand thousands of your actual dollars

This is not ambiguous. It is an insane ridiculous lie, and the extreme bad faith of posting it inherently invalidates your ability to take part in the discussion.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Look up the word "liable."

Then come back and try to engage in this discussion in a way that matters - like when I ask, if YOU think this business model is NOT VALID, why the fuck is it okay? Even if you think someone overstepped from "it's already half the industry holy shit" to some absolute - why is ANY example tolerable?

If you agree this business model is a scam, the appropriate number of examples is zero. I shouldn't have to litigate whether the current number of example is a fuckload, a bunch, or a totality. All of those are far too many.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's nowhere near half the industry. It's a small corner of games that already are dogshit anyways.

2K is one of the only examples where there's actually a game underneath it to be made worse by the model.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's literally half of all revenue. You wanna split more hairs instead of addressing the fucking point? Maybe do it by yourself.

Every game with this shit is made worse. That's the only way it works. There's some version of the game that's optimized for your enjoyment - and you are granted brief glimpses of it, for money. Frustration, disappointment, and exclusion are all openly abused to shove you toward throwing away more actual money. And again: there's examples of this shit in every genre, in MMOs, in single-player games, et very cetera.

Not that I should have to justify the problem's existence to someone who already said:

I don’t think this monetization scheme is valid.

THEN STOP DEFENDING IT.

Fuck!