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Oh look, Sony revoking more licenses for video content that people "bought".

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[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 298 points 10 months ago (13 children)

You know what say: if buying isn’t owning then pirating isn’t stealing.

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (9 children)

Here’s my risky comment of the day.

I think piracy isn’t like stealing, but it’s still wrong in some interesting and nuanced ways. Just so you know, I’m in no position to judge people for pirating, because I’ve done my fair share of sailing the high seas. However, I would still like to discuss the ethical aspects of piracy and how it compares with stealing.

IMO, calling it stealing is completely wrong, but free-riding or trespassing could be more suitable words for this. Obviously, the movie industry would love to compare it with the most severe crime they can come up with, but they certainly have financial incentives behind that reasoning. I’m looking at it from a more neutral perspective.

Stealing has clear and direct harm associated with it, whereas the effects of piracy are more subtle and indirect. Free-riding a bus or sneaking into a circus (AKA trespassing) are somewhat similar, but there’s clear indirect harm. If you watch a football match from the outside of the fence, it’s probably still considered free-riding, but I would put that into a completely different category. IMO it’s also closer to piracy than the other examples.

Most pirates shouldn’t be counted as lost customers, so the argument about depriving the creator of their rightful income is only partially correct. If pirating wasn’t possible, but paying for the movie was, vast majority of these people would prefer to do something else like, go outside and play football with friends. To some extent, piracy still does reduce the demand for the pirated material, so there’s an indirect harm associated with it, and that’s what makes it unethical IMO. Still not wrong enough that I would stop doing it, especially considering what the alternatives are. Again, I have no moral high ground in this situation, and I’m willing to call my own actions unethical. You can call yours whatever you want.

[–] No1@aussie.zone 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Obviously, the movie industry would love to compare it with the most severe crime they can come up with

Clearly, it's rape and murder.

You are raping their digital bits by taking them without their consent.

And you are murdering the money they should have had.

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Then again, it is traditional to hang pirates.

Source: Pirated pirate movies

[–] No1@aussie.zone 2 points 10 months ago

It's literally right in front of them. Why would they not make pirates walk the plank?

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