Also better games. Graphics are not a substitute for gameplay, and I'm sorry to the "games as art" people but games are really about the latter not the former. If I wanted to look at beautiful renderings of fantastic and incredibly moving scenes, we have movies for that. That is not a requirement for a good game.

[–] DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago

"Games as art" isn't about pretty pictures. At that point, games are no different from movies. A Tale of Two Brothers is a short puzzle game that uses the contols as a way to directly enrich the story. I consider that game as "games as art" way before considering any of the cinematic AAA games that have come out in recent years.

[–] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 hours ago

As one of those "games as art" people I think you've kinda misunderstood the stance - narrative and gameplay are very much part of the art we're talking about. Films as art is well established but aesthetics alone don't make a film great - see the (blue skinned aliens) Avatar films, they look fantastic but everything else is meh. Most of us aren't really interested in the Thomas Kinkade of video games, lol.