you should make a distinction between Jews and zionists/the state of Israel, remember that not all Jews are zionists, there are many anti-zionist Jews who oppose Israel and their genocide.

I don’t know how serious you’re being, but please remember that there are plenty of Jewish people who are also anti-Zionist and anti-Israel, don’t let some bad, loud voices persuade you otherwise <3

I suspect you, on the other hand, may be a zionist.

Do you believe Israel is conducting genocide in Gaza, killing over 60,000 people including many innocent civillians, and also is now ethnically cleansing Lebanon?

[+] Godric@lemmy.world -13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Calling for the mass murder of anyone sounds pretty evil"

"You sound like you like murder, are you someone we want to murder?"

Y'all can take your black flags and go, too many of you didn't paint over the red and white nearly well enough.

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I notice you dodged my question.

Again, anyone looking through my comments can confirm that I advocate against the death penalty, even for Zionist Nazis, and I have never urged for the death or murder of any zionists (except maybe for IDF soldiers to be killed by resistance forces in combat situations):

De-nazification obviously shouldn’t be death - except perhaps for people like Bibi himself, and other leaders - but truth and reconciliation campaigns, cult deprogramming, re-education initiatives, and laws against zionists holding positions of power in the new nation formed.

I will ask again: do you believe Israel is conducting genocide in Gaza, killing over 60,000 people including many innocent civillians, and also is now ethnically cleansing Lebanon?

[–] Godric@lemmy.world -1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Hmmm, when I say "calling for mass murder sounds evil", what do you think? Rub those three brain cells together and see if you might be able to infer how I feel about the ethnic cleansing in Gaza and Lebanon.

I didn't know not adding a paragraph of explanation to the basic take "don't fucking murder people en-mass" made it controversial. TIL.

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

I can imagine that you feel some kind of way about it - but you're intentionally avoiding telling us how you feel, and just vagueposting, letting us infer and project what we want.

On the other hand, my positions are clear, consistent, backed with quotes going back weeks and months, clearly disproving all of your wild accusations. An apology would be appreciated. I don't enjoy being compared to a neo-nazi.

I notice that you continue avoiding the term "genocide". Do you deny that it is a genocide?

If you agree that Israel is responsible for ethnic cleansing, why are you here calling out anarchists for principled anti-zionism? Is protecting Israel from criticism more important to you than advocating against genocide and ethnic cleansing? Do you want the alt-right leading the fight against zionism? Do you think that's a good idea?

If you are so concerned with acts of murder against innocent people, you'd be anti-zionist, too. And yet, here you are, fighting against someone who is a principled anti-zionist, who consistently argues against anti-semitism.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world -1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You're defending "Kill all Zionists", and then accusing people who say "mass murder is evil" of being Zionists. Now, you're playing dumb, pretending you haven't a clue where I'mcoming from. If you want an apology, ask your education system.

We're here in the weeds because you've successfully managed to change the topic to semantics of a position you've assigned me, rather than the actual issue of neonazis sucessfully coopting Anarchist thought. Bravo, you've used the alt-right playbook sucessfully.

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Again, ignoring the question.

I literally just said that this image is a zionist psy-op and you came in here accusing me of being anti-semitic. In my experience, someone calling you anti-semitic the moment you criticize Israel or zionism, is 99% of the time, a zionist.

Have I ever defended anyone saying "Kill all zionists?" No. I literally said the exact opposite of kill all zionists. I don't believe ANYONE on db0 unironically believes that all zionists should be murdered. I think a certain user just had an edgy username, and that user stepped down from the admin team and changed their name.

There is literally ZERO issue here. It's complete bullshit pearl-clutching, and it's coming from people who are defending the settler colonial fascist zionist ethnostate known as Israel, which is currently conducting genocide and ethnic cleansing campaigns. Zionists are responsible for the deaths of upwards of 60,000 innocent civillians in Gaza AT LEAST. Many of them INTENTIONALLY TARGETED. They've blown up schools, places of worship, hospitals. Entire cities, completely levelled. And you're mad that someone had an edgy username, probably venting their anger at such a disgustingly genocidal regime?

Now, once again: do you believe Israel is conducting genocide in Gaza, killing over 60,000 people including many innocent civillians, and also is now ethnically cleansing Lebanon?

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

As expected he ignored you