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[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 39 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I've had so many instances of free to use, lifetime licenses, and purchased software that have turned into subscription services that I refuse to install anything that requires an account unless it can't be avoided. The fact that Plex required an account be created to view my own local content years before they started charging for use made it obvious subscription fees were coming.

Jellyfin works great. Combined with Wireguard it works great anywhere.

[–] tkohldesac@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

My only hitch making the switch to Jellyfin is that a couple of my TVs just don't have a jellyfin app whatsoever. I wish they did, I can't stand all the changes Plex has made over the last few years specifically.

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Spin up pihole and just look at the data coming to your “smart” TV’s even when you are not using them. Then consider the data they must be sending home, the only thing “smart” TVs are good at is watching you watch them (or not watching them). I would highly recommend getting a pi or media computer for your TV’s.

I do not think I can stress this enough smart TV’s are not smart for you they are smart for whoever made the TV. Manufactures sell TV’s at a loss now because they get more by selling you.

[–] johnofrobotz@news.girolab.foo 6 points 3 weeks ago

I have an Nvidia Shield stick that's android based and one day Google started pushing live Taco Bell ads to it on the ambient Home Screen. That was the last day pi-hole ever let it phone home.

[–] tkohldesac@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Agreed. Watching the queries on the pi-hole dashboard has been eye-opening.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

highly recommend getting a pi or media computer

Been looking at this for years, Fam is absolutely refusing to use a keyboard in the living room. They'll watch on their phones first. I can't find a clear, easy solution to run a quality remote on a SFF pc. It's like the decades old mediacenter hole that never gets filled.

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I had a pi 5 that I was going to use as my set top box and install the media centre OS on it, Jeff Geerling shows how you can do it with a pi 5, but it got damaged when my place flooded and insurance does its thing to screw you over and I never got around to testing it.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks for that, flirc might be worth my time to look.

I need some of those codecs to perform better, but I can probably stand up a more agile box than a Pi.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

They do not sell TVs at a loss lol.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Retailers don't, but those $300 60" TVs cost manufacturers more than that in parts and shipping. They are 100% making up for it in LTV from your data, that's why some are trying to make it impossible not to use them when not connected to the internet.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

but those $300 60" TVs cost manufacturers more than that in parts and shipping.

They don't.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

nice argument you place there. meet my blocklist

Wait, you're that same guy just shilling for plex aren't you?

Oh my, go check that post history people, they're either a PR plant or just trolling

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

lol someone saw my profile bio and got upset because it describes them XD

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Look at an major TV manufactures books and the TV part is a loss, the income they get from the TV is selling you to advertisers.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au -1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Look at an major TV manufactures books and the TV part is a loss, the income they get from the TV is selling you to advertisers.

I'd love to see your source for this. I won't hold my breathe because it's simply not true.

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

None of these links even remotely say they sell their TVs at a loss.

Roku shouldn’t even be anywhere near this conversation if you were serious. They probably sell a dozen TVs a year. They’re all about streaming boxes which is a different story altogether.

You said to look at their books, yet didn’t provide anything to back that up.

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I am waiting on your apology or rebuttal!

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 points 2 weeks ago

I am still waiting for you to provide evidence. Your last attempt was woeful and nothing of the sort.

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

A cheap device like an Onn (~$20) would solve that, probably without requiring the device have Internet access once set up.

[–] tkohldesac@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Researching now. I figured there were things out there like that but didn't know they were so inexpensive. Thanks for the suggestion!

[–] gilokee@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

couldn't you also do a little raspberry pi setup? little more work but a lot more control.

[–] tkohldesac@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'd love to! Those things are expensive now though. My old Pi is running my Pi-Hole now. If they were affordable, I'd buy a whole ass pallet of them for all the projects I want to do.

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yes the whole poop load of them would be great to get, I have so many projects I would like to do with them.

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] tkohldesac@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They are, at least the one that's given me the most trouble is.

[–] Xanvial@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think Jellyfin already released to Tizen OS, although not all model supports it https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin-tizen/issues/222#issuecomment-3831638580

If you want to try, it should be possible to install it yourself instead of waiting it to be available in Tizen app store

[–] tkohldesac@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, my TV doesn't have Tizen as far as I know. I found that jellyfin-tizen app and tried manually installing it but my TV is about 8 years old now.