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Oh yeah, what are the unadjusted numbers then?
Here, I'll invite you to read this document published on house.gov specifically on trumps impact to the national debt throughout America's history. It is not a "slam piece" on it's own, he does it to himself with facts and figures which is what this article gives.
I searched for "inflation", "nominal" and "adjusted" and didn't find anything relevant.
I believe that the $37 trillion dollars is the total debt whenever that graphic was made, and the $12.5T is the debt increase from Trump's first term, plus so far in his second term. That means you're comparing Trump's debt (issued in 2016 or later dollars) to, for example, Roosevelt's debt (issued in 1940s dollars).
The article you link seems perfectly factual and correctly identifies that debt to GDP is more important than nominal debt. Which is why you shouldn't be using a comparison of nominal debt increases to criticise Trump.
It's relative to the economy. The comparison is the fact that he spends frivolously when other presidents who contributed largely to the debt did so during crises. Trump CREATES crises all on his own. He campaigns on lowering debt, but does quite the opposite ten fold. So yeah, it is perfectly within the realm to criticize and compare him with all other presidents all things considering. The pie represents his failures in the simplistic of forms.
What measure of "the economy"? The usual measure is GDP, measured in dollars, so the number is a dimensionless ratio, not a dollar amount.
The fact that you aren't telling me how this number was arrived at, or giving any precise answers at all, is answer enough: it's not "adjusted" to anything. You made that up and are continuing to talk shit.
You clearly have no idea how any of this works, but you can keep suckling the teet of your orange king pedophile and live "happily ever after" in your delusional little bubble till the collapse. As long as you feel loved by your king, all is well, right?
You are definitely not an economist judging by your pure lack of knowledge, and that's okay... these numbers are unfathomable anyhow.
Since you want some kind of answer, the national debt is analyzed regularly and adjusted for inflation already and then they compare it to the ECONOMY in real time. What answer your trying to seek is impossible, the fact is; Donald John Trump is a pedophile rapist piece of shit and that's about all that really matters.
Learn to read.
So you don't know. I'm not an economist, but I clearly know more economics than you do.
This conversation is pointless; you had your chance to demonstrate you understood, multiple times, and you failed to do so. I see my original comment got downvoted in spite of the explicit caveat because you and three other people are incapable of understanding that "these numbers criticising Trump are bogus" does not mean "I love Trump".
Goodbye.