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[โ€“] merc@sh.itjust.works 23 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (3 children)

woke

By the standards of the 1990s, sure.

lame attempts at fanservice

Not really. McCoy made a very brief appearance in the pilot. But, it wasn't until season 5 where Spock would show up in a pretty major role. Scotty showed up a season later. I wouldn't say there was much fan service at all, given that the TOS crew was mostly all around and available.

giRrL pOwErRr

Hardly. Troi was the most important female character, but she was less important than the Captain, Number One, Data, Chief Engineer Laforge and of course Miles. It was a bit unusual to have a female head of security, but she didn't even last 1 season before being replaced by Worf.

pushes gay agenda

Was there a single gay member of the Enterprise? The only hint at homosexuality I can remember is Riker going for an androgynous person. They even had to make it clear that Tasha Yar wasn't a lesbian by having her fuck a sex robot.

handwavy magic "science"

It's Star Trek...

retconned Klingons to look super weird

The brow ridges showed up in 1979's Star Trek, the Motion Picture. They were a major departure from the TOS design. TNG just kept that design

disabled crew members

Geordi? I suppose. He definitely makes it seem like he's "differently abled" though, because his visor lets him see things that other people can't. But, I suppose they do have some occasions when someone takes his visor and he's completely blind.

The only other one I can think of is Barclay, but that's more neurodivergence than a disability.

unrelentingly woke

You already said that

captain with a goofy hairstyle

Sure

black people everywhere

Laforge and... Guinan? Sure, the actor playing Worf is black, but it's hard to tell anything under all that makeup. There were remarkably few black characters in TNG, if you think about it.

politics politics politics

Yes, it's Star Trek.

[โ€“] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

They even had to make it clear that Tasha Yar wasn't a lesbian by having her fuck a sex robot.

Hey, not a sex robot, a robot capable of sex.... there's a difference....I think ๐Ÿค”

[โ€“] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I'm glad someone caught that. :)

[โ€“] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

I'm glad you're glad ๐Ÿฅฐ

[โ€“] SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world 17 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Dr crusher also kisses a woman in that one episode that introduced the trill.

[โ€“] merc@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You could maybe argue that there was a hint at a pro-Trans story there. She falls for a guy, but the person she thinks she fell for isn't actually the person she thought, and in the end it's a girl. But, she decides not to continue the relationship after that final twist. And it's also one episode in a very long series and Crusher is clearly straight... even if the Trill is maybe bisexual, or maybe pansexual.

she decides not to continue the relationship

Pretty handwavy when the context is a literal conversion therapy analogue.

[โ€“] taiyang@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, they're trying to make a joke but it kinda works better with, idk, Voyager or something (well, maybe gay or black comment but certainly more diverse and highlighting stuff like cultural diversity).

That said, I've seen this exact joke about wokeness already but with TOS, so eh.

[โ€“] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago

Sure, they're trying to make a joke. But, when this kind of thing works as a joke you can go through each item in the list and say "hmm, yeah, I guess" even if as a whole it's clearly not true.

In this case, some of the list items just make no sense, like "black people everywhere" or "pushes gay agenda". If they'd stuck with "woke" and "a captain that Trekkies hated" it could have worked.