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[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

you had to do one search to find most of what you've said is false

Underoccupied developments in China are mostly unoccupied newly built property developments in China, and frequently referred to as "ghost cities" or ghost towns. The phenomenon was claimed and recorded as early as 2009 by Al Jazeera's Melissa Chan and subsequently reported by news media over the decades.[1][2][3][4] Although a feature of discourse on the Chinese economy and urbanization in China in the 2010s, many developments that were initially criticized as "ghost cities" in China have since become occupied and are now functioning cities.[5][6][7][8]

China's government has set a goal to raise the nation's urbanization rate to around 75% by 2035, which may require the construction of an estimated 40 to 50 million new housing units to accommodate this shift.[9] Some observers argue that China's so-called "ghost cities" are better understood as ambitious urbanization projects built ahead of demand.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underoccupied_developments_in_China

they don't have "ghost cities" they have something called planned economy. in a planned economy the state plans to improve the lives of the proletariat. so essentially they are creating house for people to live instead of them being used for upping some numbers on a spreadsheet.

[–] Steve@communick.news -1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Most? I mentioned 4 things. You "debunked" one.
If they filled those cities, that's great. It only took 20 years. And it's certainly better than keeping people homeless.

Their construction still doesn't have a great track record for longevity. A number of those skyscrapers have collapsed also. Who knows how many have died in them. We certainly don't, because the Chinese government never gives out information like that. They constantly lie and obfuscate, even disappear whistle blowers. People live in fear of saying things they know the government won't like.

How reliable is the census data for those cities? We don't know.

[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 2 points 55 minutes ago (1 children)

You are right, enemies of the US empire are not worthy enough to be trusted with their data.

[–] Steve@communick.news 1 points 19 minutes ago

That's not what I said

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

This is, again, not true. You have a caricature of China in your head, not an accurate picture of China. People don't live in fear, data is reliable. China has some of the best perceptions surrounding their country's democracy in the world:

From NIRA data.

[–] Steve@communick.news 1 points 7 minutes ago* (last edited 5 minutes ago)

Self reported data of people's opinions isn't all that reliable actually. What people say they think, is often different than what their actions reveal. There are numerous biases and motivations in answering these kinds of questions.

And in a single party state with a multi-generational history of violent suppression of critical voices? I'd expect the data is even less reliable.