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[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Western marxist definition of socialism:

~~1 state ownership of the means of production~~

1 worker ownership of the means of production

~~2 workers in control of the state~~

2 there is no state.

4 No trade

5 must have revolutionised globally.

3 No class

6 no money

What are we even doing here are we just skipping socialism and going straight to communism at this point?

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

Lmao no trade? Good luck

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Look, if you haven't already achieved complete global control of the means of production then given it to the workers and the global commune is hegemonic and intergalactic communism is the norm, can you even call yourself a "leftist"? Sounds like LIBERALISM to me!

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