Ok so you can't win a war if it wasn't clean and easy? And since when has the publicly stated justification for a war ever had anything to do with who won? Lots of wars start with false justifications.

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Show me a reputable source that claims the US won the war. The 20 year war, of a superpower, VS a small middle eastern country.

[–] spacesatan@lazysoci.al 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

20 years? The US ousted the ba'athist government in less than a month and installed a sympathetic regime in less than two years. Even a pyrrhic victory is still a victory. The US got what it wanted geopolitically and the government they waged war against was ousted.

It was costly, unjustified, evil, and probably not even worth it from the cold math of empire but it was still a military victory.

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Nah

[–] spacesatan@lazysoci.al 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Oh ok I guess nobody has ever won a war because war is bad and even the winners take casualties. Very strong arguments you've presented of 'no lol', acting smug, and having your own bespoke definition of winning a war.

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 hours ago

Lmao. You sound mad, bud. Despite what natopedia says about the war, it was a resounding loss.