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Are ISPs responsible for bots having residential IPs or is this a user problem? (lemmy.world)

submitted 14 hours ago by Maroon@lemmy.world to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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I'm trying to understand the bot problem in the internet and finding more ways to defend myself. One thing that I can't seem to understand is why most bots, scrapers and crawlers seem to have residential IPs.

Is it that ISPs are being paid by tech-bros to assign them these IPs?
Is it that residential devices have been hacked /contain malware that does this?
Is it trivial for companies to assign themselves residential IPs?
Paid volunteers are doing this for AI companies?

Or is there is some other reason for this?

Obviously this is a problem because one can rotate / cycle through residential IPs and if I aggressively block each offender in my logs permanently, then the next person assigned this IP who may be a legitimate user will be unable to access my site.

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[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 12 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Residential routers have crappy security 'cos no-one bothers to punish ISPs for crap security practices.

Also some free VPNs come at a malware cost.

[–] Mordikan@kbin.earth 7 points 9 hours ago

You mention crappy security practices from the ISP but then mention the user's action (installing "free" VPNs). Why is the ISP on the hook for the user making terrible decisions?

What is the correct security practice in that instance? Fire the customer for being an idiot? Maybe just DENY IP ANY ANY on outbound traffic?

How do you protect somebody who is intent on running themselves off a cliff?