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[–] Ioughttamow@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In places destabilized by colonialists…

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee -4 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Bring back the Ottoman and the Mughal empires!

Most countries got a lot more stable under colonialism. Its only after they left they went back to destability and genocide.

[–] Ioughttamow@kbin.social 10 points 9 months ago

Yeah, things are pretty stable when you ruthlessly crush dissent

[–] InfiniteStruggle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee -5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That looks like Congo. Lots of colonial powers were against what happened in the Congo. Pretty sure that let to some sort of convention.

Lots of bad shit happened but we was talking stability. Bad shit happened before and after also.

[–] r_se_random@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Are we talking about the multitudes of manufactured draughts?

Or the genocide of the colonised population?

Fuck right off with colonial apologism. Colonisers have built their wealth, by exploiting countries, deepening existing social fractures, and leaving the countries worse than they found them in most aspects. The technical growth or industrialisation that the colonising powers purport to have shared (such as trains), was largely possible on the backs of the economic leverage they enjoyed on the back of the excessive taxation of the colonies^[1]^. The Indian region for all it's social issues, was a contributor to about 25% world's GDP before the stabilising force of the various colonisers arrived. In 1947, that was 2%.

Learn your history before you talk out of your ass.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee -4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The industrial revolution really had a huge affect on gdp around the world. That solved the issues of famine within india. But will probably lead to more with climate change now.

[–] InfiniteStruggle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My god man, just sign up for some history classes at your nearest university. Or maybe just listen to some podcast or something. This is just horribly insensitive, and I don't even think you know why it is so.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee -3 points 9 months ago

The gdp of the west exploded because of the industrial revolution. To claim that wasn't the largest force for changes in gdp is madness. It separated gdp so directly from labour that gdp stopped being so heavily related to population.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 months ago

You can't stabilise a country by exploiting them.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

The Colonialism-defending ghoul has logged on