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[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (6 children)

I'm violently against every attempt to try and weaken e2ee. In my mind doing so would be equivalent to telling people they're no longer allowed to meet in private and have one on one discussions.

There's just this one issue with this that causes some doubt for me. CSAM. Yes, think about the childer and so on, I know.. This is however still a real issue that I have personally encountered multiple times. I use certain encrypted platforms to chat with strangers anonymously and there's a significant userbase there spreading this content. And I don't mean provocative instagram pics but the kind of content that leaves you with zero doubt about what you just saw.

Do we just accept this uncomfortable trade-off? Obviously there are other ways for these people to get caught aswell than monitoring their private discussions which in my mind is kind of even worse than what they're doing (unless they're creating that content aswell) but it's just a fact that if the conversations truly are 100% secure then there's nothing that's going to stop this behaviour. I guess there's nothing stopping them from meeting face to face and trading printed physical photos aswell but I don't know.. This feels different and I'm really struggling to figure out how I feel about that.

[–] Huschke@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

This argument always bothers me.

Do you really expect people that are involved with child pornography to go "Oh well, now that it's forbidden to have private messaging I guess I will just stop looking at children, because the law is the law and I have to follow it."?

These people know they are breaking the law and I can promise you this. They will find a way to privately exchange their shit while the rest of us now have even less privacy...

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 7 points 9 months ago

Encrypting files that can only be unencrypted by one other person is still a thing. Sure it's not quite as convenient as it happening automatically in your chat app. However, anyone who thinks weakening e2ee in chat apps actually stops illegal actions occuring needs to think a bit more carefully.

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