It’s a dark time to be a tech worker right now : technology

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I've never met a dev in a union. What companies have a union?

[–] shasta@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

I think NASA does

[–] dana@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Google has one, but it's still very small at the moment.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 1 points 9 months ago

Technology unions are common in public sector roles.

Probably because the culture is different in a few key ways:

Government workers rarely even get a cost of living adjustment, without a union, even when they're critical. Politicians often have the final say, and often don't care about retaining key staff. (Or actively try to lose key staff...) This leads to a situation where the Union has strong public support, because the Union's motives are aligned with allowing basic government services to continue during political wind changes.
A government doing Union busting gets immediately called out as Fascism. The government telling you you can't get together to talk about how the government should change - is not a good look.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This sounds like more wishful thinking than reality. Like what SWE roles are there that are union? I graduated right after the dotcom burst, with a Computer Engineering degree, I now work as a SWE, and I don't know a single one of my peers that has entered a union.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

wishful thinking

It's an observation about what other SWEs are reporting elsewhere in this thread.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

I'd be extremely careful about believing what you read in the comment sections of lemmy.

[+] Coreidan@lemmy.world -61 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Unions aren’t exactly a saving grace

[–] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 49 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I would argue they are. My reasoning for this argument would be pointing at the history of the working class.

What is your reasoning for saying they are not?

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Corporations wouldn't fight unions so hard (historically trying to kill their members) if unions weren't both effective and a threat to their power and wealth. They really, REALLY do not want us to unionize.

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I read an article this week about how the Kinks were black listed from playing in the US in the mid to late 1960s because they pissed off someone involved with the stage/theater workers union. It was wild to me that a union could hold so much sway over commercial operations in the US.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Low pay for one. They start you low even if you have experience. You lose the ability to negotiate your pay or promotions.

[–] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This kind of bullshit generalization leads me to believe this conversation wouldn't go very far. I'll stop here. Cheers.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

lol. Sounds like a cop out because you have no counter argument. Not a surprise

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