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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (32 children)

Funny they would say it's racist...

The gov of Canada allows any of its employees who identifies as first Nation to take extra days off to participate in traditional practices (including fishing and hunting), which is something that doesn't exist for anyone else and to me that's discrimination towards anyone that isn't Christian or first Nation considering our holidays are based on Christian celebrations...

Edit: Guess I wasn't clear? Our holiday calendar being based on Christian celebrations and first Nations getting a guaranteed 5 days off to celebrate their traditions is discrimination against people that aren't part of either group since they're at the mercy of their manager when it comes to being able to have a day off for their traditions/holidays.

[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (17 children)

Giving rights to people doesn't take them away from others.

If Christians needed this according to their religion I have no doubt they'd get it.

In fact in my country (UK) many Christian events are already holidays (Easter, Christmas). Is this not the same in Canada?

Edit:

Canadians commonly refer to Easter as the period from Good Friday through Easter Monday. Good Friday (and /or Easter Monday) is a statutory holiday in Canada.

Christians already have this in Canada. So your point is totally incorrect. This in fact brings their religious rights in line with Christians.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Giving rights to people doesn’t take them away from others.

This is a horrible take. Some people being more equal than others has the same effect as discriminating everyone else. Let's give just white people some right and see how well that goes over (again).

[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We need to give these rights to other religious groups. Not take them away from others.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Well exactly. Having privileged groups in obviously the wrong way to go about things. Even if it is looked as just "giving more rights" to a group instead of everyone else being deprived of that right.

[–] LwL@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then you're still treating people unequally based on however many holidays their religion has. Not to mention atheists. It shouldn't go beyond "you get priority to get this specific day off over this other person for whom it's not a special day". And of course not allowing employers to deny vacation requests without a good reason, for some minimum number of days a year.

[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then choose your religion based on how many days off it gets you.

[–] LwL@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can make a new one that has a holiday every day of the year at that point.

That aside, pretending to be part of a religion for personal gain feels rather disrespectful for something that for many people is deeply personal.

[–] azulavoir@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure. Then if nobody hires you, it's not religious discrimination - they're actually respecting your religion's beliefs about never needing to work

[–] LwL@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If not hiring people based on their religion is allowed, that's in itself religious discrimination. By that same logic indigeneous people in canada should have worse chances of being hired right now because they get extra days off. (And let's face it that might even be happening, even if not officially).

Effectively it'd just mean that companies would prefer hiring atheists that don't get extra days off.

[–] azulavoir@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Oh, actually! Some companies do something kinda neat - everyone gets federal holidays as normal, and then in addition to normal PTO you get to choose one non-federal holiday that means a lot to you to take as your no questions asked personal holiday

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