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[–] nave@lemmy.zip -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How exactly? Let’s say they follow the EEE strategy and eventually drop support for ActivityPub. Then it’s exactly the same as it is now. People bring up XMPP but nobody wanted to use XMPP the majority of people were using Google Talk or Facebook Messenger. By using the Fediverse you are already explicitly choosing not to use Facebook or X or Reddit. The large social media companies already have larger user bases and more content and if people here wanted that they’d leave already.

[–] sir_reginald@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

People bring up XMPP but nobody wanted to use XMPP the majority of people were using Google Talk or Facebook Messenger.

Do you realise how hypocritical this is? Using the fediverse is effectively using XMPP in this analogy.

Just compare the 100 million users of Threads vs the 1.5 million MAU of the fediverse.

Threads is the corporate-backed proprietary service (Google talk) and the fediverse is the small network of federated servers hosted mainly by volunteers (XMPP).

By using the Fediverse you are already explicitly choosing not to use Facebook or X or Reddit.

By using XMPP you were explicitly not choosing Google Talk or Facebook Messenger. How is this any different?

The large social media companies already have larger user bases and more content and if people here wanted that they’d leave already.

XMPP users said the same about XMPP. And it was true, to a certain extent. The federated XMPP network is alive to this day, I'm in a few chat rooms and have a few contacts there.

[–] nave@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

By using XMPP you were explicitly not choosing Google Talk or Facebook Messenger. How is this any different?

Because the majority of XMPP users were Google Talk and Facebook Messenger users. Fediverse users are explicitly using the Fediverse.

XMPP users said the same about XMPP. And it was true, to a certain extent. The federated XMPP network is alive to this day, I'm in a few chat rooms and have a few contacts there.

Aren’t you agreeing with me here? Thats my point effectively nothing changes if Facebook drops ActivityPub.