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[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And of course .world is doing exactly what I expected it to do: it's going along with Threads integration.

And judging from how it's been set up and run to function almost exactly like old Reddit, with corporate censoring, PR-style talk from admins, blatant refusal to address and fix serious problems, and monopolizing Lemmy by herding everyone else under its umbrella instead of letting people migrate to niche servers which was the intent of the fediverse in the first place, it stands to reason the .world admins are either working directly for Threads or being paid off by Meta to do this.

It's time for everyone to just leave and go back to making their own websites again.

[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That is the beauty of the Fediverse. If you don't like how an instance is run, you can easily switch to another instance in Lemmy 0.19. We need to think of Lemmy instances as countries with their own laws, culture, and policies. So in my opinion, if you don't like how an instance is run, you can easily switch to another instance.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Except you can't, because this is not a technical problem, it's a political problem everybody is deliberately ignoring because they know it is real and they know of the extremely negative implications of them.

The vast majority of Lemmy traffic is from .world. No matter what instance you're on, most activities happen from .world and .world content floods the feeds of all the others.

.world insists on federating with Meta.

Therefore NO instance is safe, because you'll always be forced to deal with it indirectly.

That is the insidiousness of .world I tried to warn you all about.

I fucking told you all .world was monopolizing Lemmy and that it was doing it in a way that it implemented the same kind of soft censorship, favoritism and authoritarianism Reddit imposed on its users, and it was herding everyone toward it in the same way old social media did to users in the 10's.

And did a single one of you listen to me? Noooooo. You were too busy getting mad that your investment in a new website was being deconstructed and that you were being burdened with the mental labor of investing yourselves somewhere else.

This is happening 100% because you are all the most spoiled, entitled, selfish, lazy dumbasses history has ever seen, and you deserve every ounce of suffering Meta is going to impose on you and the fediverse as a result.

You've been warned

[–] mac@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Instances that defederate with threads wont see content from threads even on other instances that may federate with them.

As an example here lemmy.ml federates with hexbear and world but hexbear and world dont federate with each other. On lemmy.ml posts world users cant see any comments made from people on hexbear and vice versa

So they wont have to deal with them indirectly

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The fact that this guy's only rebuttal is "well, just go to tankie instances" is all you need to know.

[–] mac@programming.dev 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Didnt say to go anywhere, just said that people on .world cant see content from hexbear on lemmy.ml posts shown by those comment counts above even though lemmy.ml federates with hexbear. (hexbear used since its the best example of a large blocked instance that can showcase this well. Could have also used .world, .ml and beehaw and same point stands)

Same logic would apply to .world federating with threads. People on lemmy.dbzer0 for example wont see content from threads on .world posts or communities even if .world federates with threads

Just wanted to put a counterpoint to you saying people would need to deal with it indirectly which isnt true proven by the above. You dont need to strawman it by making it a different point

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

Since you're obviously one of the shills arguing in bad faith about it, know that you can't manipulate everyone into accepting corporate fists up their assholes. We will stop you one way or another.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

bring paid off by Meta

If you think Meta cares the least about some little forum with some thousands of users, you are delusional.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Shill harder, and tell me how to get in on that racket. How much is the employee health insurance?

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I not even shilling. I have no interest in Threads whatsoever. But you guys are totally delusional.