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Does anyone has a Ubuntu --> Manjaro transition guide (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 9 months ago by Ziggurat@sh.itjust.works to c/linux@lemmy.ml
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Hi All,

Over the previous 20 years I've used at home mostly Mandriva, then kUbuntu and just installed a Manjaro. So I am not "new to Linux" but still new to Manjaro/arch. Has anyone a good "primer" for people migrating ?

A few questions I have

  • How does pacman work compared to apt-get ? and how to find in which package an command lies. I struggled a bit to get lsinput (to configure a rudder pedal for flight sim)

  • I am struggling a bit with Zsh, like I ended up starting bash to configure an environment variable, any ressources on-it. Or shall I simply change my setting (and how) to use bash that I know a bit. It's a home/Gaming PC so I don't plan to use the console that much but as anyone who has been using linux based OS for a while, I find-it more conveinient

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[–] Fecundpossum@lemmy.world 40 points 9 months ago (2 children)

My suggestion to you, is please oh please replace Manjaro with EndeavourOS. It does everything Manjaro does but better. The learning curve will still be the same.

pacman: EndeavourOS has yay installed by default, which is an AUR helper. It interacts with pacman and builds your packages for you. yay -S steam for instance calls up pacman and builds the steam package from the repo and takes some of the head scratching out of it. Very easy to use. A simple “yay” to update, no sudo needed, yay will ask for a sudo password when it needs it.

Shell selection: bash is fine, and bash is enabled by default in EndeavourOS.

But the real reason to use EndeavourOS, aside from having an arch based rolling release distro, is its community and support. An amazing forum, tons of documentation between EOS and arch itself, and fantastic wiki that guides you through various tools and utilities you may want to use.

It is a terminal centric distro, but you can easily install GUI tools for things you don’t want to do in the CLI.

I would even be down to correspond and help you out if need be. Manjaro looks cool when you’re in those early stages of outgrowing Ubuntu, but it’s not the distro you’re looking for, I promise.

[–] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 17 points 9 months ago

This x1000. If you want a good arch experience, without doing the install yourself, EndeavorOS is the way to go. Just whatever you do, stay away from Manjaro unless you want problems.

I've tried tons of Arch distros over the years out of laziness, once I already had success manually installing it myself.

[–] governorkeagan@lemdro.id 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’ll preface my question by saying that it may be a n00b question. I started using Linux as my daily driver about 4 or 5 months ago.

What makes EndeavourOS so terminal centric? I’ve been using it for about a month now (maybe two) having moved from Pop!_OS. I don’t think I’m using the terminal more now than I did in Pop!_OS.

For context, I use my PC for video/photo editing, gaining occasionally, and work (we use our personal computers).

[–] Fecundpossum@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I would say that EndeavourOS, while being more fleshed out than vanilla Arch, has a lot fewer GUI tools for system configuration than say, Linux Mint. Mint has GUI tools for managing PPAs and extra repositories, managing graphics drivers, updating packages and much much more. This has become pretty common in distros aimed toward ease of use for newcomers. EndeavourOS has none of that, with the stated goal of seeing users dive into the command line a little more.

As a result I’ve learned a lot in the CLI. Setting up BTRFS with timeshift auto snaps taught me a little about configuring grub and systemd, so now I’m learning how to set my fan curves and AIO pump to presets I’ve built into shell scripts to interact with liquidctl, and systemd config files to make them persistent after sleep and reboot. You could totally do all of that in the terminal in any distro, but EndeavorOS not having any GUI handholding made me leave my comfort zone and start learning more.

[–] governorkeagan@lemdro.id 4 points 9 months ago

That makes a lot of sense, thank you.

[–] Thorned_Rose@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

You can install Manjaro's pamac though. And installing KDE and it's ecosystem gives you almost all the gui you need.