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I want to donate to a linux phone. I believe in linux and I want a linux phone. Maybe we can use one in very few years as a normal daily driver. It's getting closer and closer every month.

I want to donate that we get there sooner. But which project? I'm following postmarket but I'm not sure if they are the most promising. What's your stance on this? To which project would you give your money to accellerate it?

Edit: I don't want to buy a phone. I want to support the phone os devs. Sorry for the bad wording.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

AOSP is dying as Google is killing off all the apps in favor of proprietary Google ones.

Lineage os is slowly becoming its own thing as they are maintaining basically all of the system apps at this point.

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I like the security measures that Google takes for Android.

I don't like how Google fucks everyone over in everything else

[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I love having to use a custom ROM to get security updates and subsequently root my phone to be able to pass safetynet so I can use banking apps on my phone. Else I have to do as designed: Buy a new phone every 2-3 years :))))))

Not Google's fault alone, but the way Android and ARM both have proprietary components combine into a delightful piece of hot crap that stifles users freedom and innovation.

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

For some reason everyone is assuming the worst out of my comment.

For reference, I was talking about the change in the system certificate store in Android 14, to which even root cannot directly write to now. This seems like a massive bug to people but this is actually an unintended byproduct instead of intentionally fucking everyone over.

I don't think people realise the amount of work Google puts into Android. I hate their policies as much as the next person, but I can never fail to respect their efforts towards Android. You think A/B would be reality if we left it to Samsung? It would become another locked garden like Apple.

Unless the day comes that we absolutely cannot run custom ROMs (and this is a problem specifically in America because of carriers, not Google or any other OEM), I will never fail to acknowledge the great benefits that Google has brought to Android.

Your problems stem from capitalism and not from Google's code

[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Security measures which are hard to verify without source code. More like "security claims"

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No one actually runs AOSP on their phone. It is effectively a black box. AOSP exists to exploit volunteer labour and comply with licensing requirements

[–] ricdeh@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

With LineageOS, you pretty much are running AOSP on your phone.

[–] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Except most phones cannot run it

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

You're technically correct, because Lineage often has to bundle their own apps with AOSP along with a few tweaks.

However, the way you're putting it is as if Google literally removes the backbone of Android in AOSP and serves you a shell. That is simply not the case. You don't want to run Google's proprietary software? You don't get Google's services.

That's all there is to it. Running Lineage is perfectly fine on many devices with Google. The statement that Lineage doesn't work on many devices is only true in America, in which case, blame your carriers.

[–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Try to compile just the Android SDK yourself. No one even knows if this is possible (if all the source code needed is there).

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

AFAIK the only proprietary parts of AOSP are Google's services and GMS. And any smaller related bits.

Or are you saying that Lineage OS is just guessing in the wild with every release?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 9 months ago

"Security measures"