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[–] Tja@programming.dev 27 points 2 years ago (4 children)

No. My impressions are based on having lived it before the iron curtain fell.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Unless you're over a 100 years old you lived in a totalitarian system masquerading as Communism.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Funny how that's always the result.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah I don't think we've figured out a good way past the charismatic sociopath problem. The best thing we're going to have in the short term is a democracy with a strong emphasis on socialism.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Funny how that's a fallacy, and there have been countless largely communist organizations of human labor over history, which lasted just as long as capitalist society.

[–] Tja@programming.dev -5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

See how you didn't even have to ask which country it was? Because a 100% of communist countries became dictatorships ridden with poverty for the working class and gold plated luxury for the ruling class.

I'm happy now somewhere in the middle in this terrible, terrible capitalism. Oh, and I'm free to leave anytime I want, if I don't like it.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

So do 100% of Capitalist countries without a strong democracy. In fact capitalism is the one designed to do so by concentrating capital.

When we figure out communism or socialism there's a really good chance it's a strong democracy that prevents it from falling into totalitarianism. Will it be a bunch of anarchic communes in council? Lol no. Will workers share profit equally with executives? Probably.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

But prepare for a 25 year old who lives in his mom's garage in rural Indiana to try to debate you on the subject anyway.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Says the balding neckbeard living in Brexit-land.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago

Bald, not balding.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You mean the impressions of having lived in a dictatorship which discarded the idea of progressing towards communism? How is that relevant?

[–] Tja@programming.dev -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

See how you didn't even have to ask which country it was? Because a 100% of communist countries became dictatorships ridden with poverty for the working class and gold plated luxury for the ruling class.

I'm happy now somewhere in the middle in this terrible, terrible capitalism. Oh, and I'm free to leave anytime I want, if I don't like it.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Grade-school level history: I didn't need to ask which country because all of the possible countries were puppet states of a single other country...

Because a 100% of communist countries became dictatorships [...]

There are a total of 0 communist countries throughout history. Your lack of very basic knowledge is starting to make me cringe.

I’m happy now somewhere in the middle in this terrible, terrible capitalism.

That's irrelevant. If you're happy while I'm driving a nail through your eyes, does that make driving a nail through someone's eyes a good thing? The fact that you are privileged doesn't make a difference.

Oh, and I’m free to leave anytime I want

No, you're not. Your statement is so completely uneducated, I couldn't even guess where to begin dismantling it.