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I was disappointed to see that they seem to have opted not to include the Chinese in Retold. In an interview a year or two ago Adam Isgreen specifically mentioned that they would find a way to include them. The same interview where he first publicly floated the idea of making god-powers reuseable.
Obviously the Tale of the Dragon DLC was extremely poorly-received, but that was down to bad design decisions when designing the Chinese civ, as well as some poor balance changes to the core civs that came out at the same time as the DLC (Greeks getting a healer, Norse getting an archer, etc.) wich fundamentally broke the most basic design decisions at the core of the civs. The fan community had basically assumed we were getting a revamped Chinese civ, and were additionally hoping to see another new civ in addition to that—possibly the Aztecs, given the popularity of a fan-made mod for that civ. So getting fewer civs than we were expecting is a pretty big disappointment.
Hopefully the Chinese are coming in a future DLC down the line, and they just decided they needed more time to be able to spend coming up with a new civ design and new campaign for them. And hopefully it's a big enough success to spur on further DLCs like Aztecs in the future. Given the quality of work being done on AoE2, 3, and 4, I certainly have faith that they could do it if they set their minds to it.
It's probably going to be a dlc, that way they can have time to fix things and double dip money wise, if the game doesn't sell well they might not bother to. Though I think the game is perfect as it was, I didn't even play with the titans on the extended edition in aom or the new civ. Maybe I should go back and check it out.
Personally I never played it without The Titans. I first played it in probably 2005 on the Gold Edition. I loved it in that version; it was probably my most-played game for a long time. The campaign was a brilliant sequel to the original, and some of the multiplayer custom scenarios were incredible. I must have played dozens of hours of escape scenarios alone.
I was absolutely gutted when my disk got a scratch and no longer worked, back at a time before I was aware of no-CD patches. I went searching all over the place until I could find a store that still sold Age of Mythology. I was so excited, until...on the bus back I read the back of the box. This was an edition published by Ubisoft, which did not support online play. From then until EE came out, I basically completely stopped playing. EE brought me back in, mostly playing casual multiplayer with friends against each other or against AI, or the occasional custom scenario made by one of my friends.
I basically stopped playing the game within a month or two of Tales of the Dragon being released. The DLC itself, and the 'balance' changes to the other civs that came out at the same time, just killed my motivation and that of my gaming group.
Huh I really should check out the new campaign, the original was such a ride. I didn't even know it had a dlc with Titans before it came out on steam and I saw they added those and a new civ. Hope the game works on linux like aoe2 de does.
Well, not so much a DLC back in the day! Just an old-school expansion.
Not sure about Linux. I know that the original game had an official Mac version which could do multiplayer cross-play, but The Titans was never released for Mac, and unlike the modern DLCs, back in the day you couldn't do multiplayer between Titans and OG players.